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Thread: Leroy “Lee” Hall, Jr. - Tennessee Execution - December 5, 2019

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    The agreement with safety is critical, in most states to be sentenced to death you have to be found as a future danger.

    Are you a habitual criminal? Have you continual stalked and harassed someone for years? Yes? You are a danger. Which means that this sentence isn't arbitrary and you are different. A special case.

    We had a death row murder earlier this year, what are we suppose to do with that guy at that point? We can't throw him in solitary for the rest of his life that's unconstitutional. We also can't keep him prison for a life sentence because that's also unconstitutional.

    Without a criteria to separate these people from other murderers than we just go back onto the complete arbitrarily nature of the death penalty which is the legal reason as to why it was striken down in the first place.

    I believe this is the second post from you regrading we need to continue to give ground to these people for better optics. Which again we aren't winning any debates anyway. Because they aren't debating us, they aren't putting the DP on referendums. They are having civil servants refusing to carry out the law and sending issuing stays for just about any reason they can, even when they know the higher court will give em a slap when they get it.

    What's going on big guy you okay?
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    4th Tennessee death row inmate selects electric chair

    By Kimberlee Kruesi
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    NASHVILLE, Tenn. — A Tennessee death row inmate on Thursday selected electrocution for his upcoming execution, a move that would make him the fourth person in the state to choose that method over lethal injection since last year.

    A spokeswoman with the Department of Correction confirmed that Lee Hall, formerly known as Leroy Hall Jr., requested the electric chair for his scheduled Dec. 5 execution.

    In Tennessee, the state’s primary execution method is lethal injection but inmates can choose electrocution if they were convicted of crimes before January 1999.

    Nationally, electrocution is a rarely-used option — partially due to it being legal in only six states. However, it’s a method that has been requested by three out of the five past death row inmates since Tennessee started resuming executions in August 2018.

    Outside of Tennessee, the last time the electric chair was used in an execution was in 2013 in Virginia. Courts in Georgia and Nebraska have declared the electric chair unconstitutional and the U.S. Supreme Court has never fully considered its constitutionality.

    Hall was convicted of killing Traci Crozier in 1991 in Chattanooga. He set her car on fire while she was still inside. According to court documents, Crozier received burns to more than 90% of her body and died several hours later in the hospital.

    Hall’s attorneys are currently fighting to block the execution date.

    Tennessee performed three executions last year. It was second only to Texas, which carried out 13.

    Most states have been moving away from the death penalty, but Tennessee’s attorney general has requested to schedule executions for nine death-row prisoners and restore a 10th inmate’s death sentence. Another execution has been scheduled for 2020.

    Most recently, Tennessee put 56-year-old Stephen West to death by electric chair in August. West was convicted of the 1986 kidnappings and stabbing deaths of a mother and her 15-year-old daughter. He also was convicted of raping the teen.

    https://apnews.com/474ff2e4af434e07aa18d46aeed7bcf9

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    A shocking decision. sorry couldn't resist
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    Death row inmate points to biased juror as execution nears

    By Kimberlee Kruesi
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    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — As Tennessee prepares to electrocute yet another death row inmate, a last-minute legal battle has raised questions surrounding the possible bias of a juror who helped hand down the original death sentence decades ago.

    Attorneys for Lee Hall say they have found a woman — simply known as “Juror A” — who now admits she failed to disclose she had been repeatedly raped and abused by her former husband during Hall’s jury selection process nearly 26 years ago.

    This omission, the attorneys argue, deprived the 53-year-old Hall of a fair and impartial jury — a right protected in both the Tennessee and U.S. constitutions. At stake is a possible reversal of Hall’s conviction and death sentence.

    “Juror A concedes that she was actually biased against Mr. Hall at the time of the trial and in fact hated him because he reminded her of her abusive husband. Juror A’s affirmative misrepresentations rendered Mr. Hall’s capital murder trial fundamentally unfair,” Hall’s most recent post-conviction petition states.

    In response, the state’s attorneys have opposed Hall’s petition to reopen the case and have asked the court to dismiss the request.

    “The matters litigated at the petitioner’s trial were, of course, his actions at the time of the murder. Neither Juror A’s claimed domestic abuse and bias, nor evidence of whether she disclosed those, had any relation to those litigated matters...for this reason alone, the petitioner’s petition should be summarily dismissed,” wrote Hamilton County District Attorney General Neal Pinkston.

    Hall, formerly known as Leroy Hall Jr., has been on death row ever since being convicted for the 1991 killing of his estranged girlfriend Traci Crozier. Hall set Crozier’s car on fire while she was still inside by filling a container with gasoline, stuffing a paper towel over the top, lighting it on fire and then throwing it into the car.

    The container exploded and Crozier received burns to more than 90% of her body. She died the next day in the hospital.

    According to the court documents, Juror A’s name is sealed because the woman’s family is unaware of the years of physical and emotional abuse she experienced with her first husband and her oldest son is unaware that he is a result of a violent rape.

    While the woman is now speaking out about her bias against Hall after undergoing several years of therapy, she acknowledges that she failed to disclose her experienced with domestic violence and rape despite being given several options during the jury screening process.

    She didn’t begin talking about the abuse until 2007, when she began seeing a therapist, and didn’t tell Hall’s attorneys about her past until this year.

    “All these memories flooded back to me during the trial. I could see myself in Traci (Crozier)’s shoes, given what happened to me,” the juror later said in an Oct. 10 affidavit. “I hated Lee for what he did to that girl.”

    The new revelation involving Juror A comes when the state is prepared to execute Hall on Dec. 5 via the electric chair — an execution method increasingly being selected by Tennessee inmates over lethal injection.

    Yet it’s unclear if the information will delay the execution. A judge has scheduled a hearing to listen to both sides Thursday in Chattanooga, roughly two hours southeast of Nashville, after initially tossing out two other petition requests submitted by Hall’s attorneys.

    “If procedurally proper, this Court would be inclined to conclude that petition states a colorable claim — one which still must be proven by petitioner before he would be entitled to relief — and consider the petition on its merits,” wrote Criminal Court Judge Don Poole earlier this month.

    Poole added that Hall has already fully litigated a separate post-conviction petition and agreed that the second petition did not meet the criteria for reopening the case.

    But Pooled noted the Tennessee Supreme Court has at times allowed certain cases to be heard on “due process grounds” even when they didn’t strictly meet the state’s deadlines.

    Nevertheless, Poole said he was unaware of any statute, court rule, or appellate opinion that addressed whether those due process concerns would allow a trial court to consider a second post-conviction petition on “its merits despite the statutory limit of one post-conviction petition.”

    Bias in jury selection recently halted a scheduled execution of a Tennessee death row inmate earlier this year.

    In September, a separate judge approved an agreement that converted the death sentence of Abu-Ali Abdur’Rahman (ah-BOO’-ah-LEE’) (AHB’-dur-RAK’-mahn) to life in prison due to concerns that racism tainted his jury selection pool.

    The agreement came after Abdur’Rahman, who is black, petitioned to reopen his case, presenting evidence that prosecutors at his trial treated black potential jurors differently from white potential jurors.

    Tennessee’s attorney general is appealing the agreement.

    https://apnews.com/17f24ebdb37b415e8a7246d9fe2b371f

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    Is it just me or is there something really egregious about how the crux of Hall’s appeal is that this juror is incompetent specifically because she’s a domestic abuse survivor?

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    Hall set Crozier’s car on fire while she was still inside by filling a container with gasoline, stuffing a paper towel over the top, lighting it on fire and then throwing it into the car.
    Also, what’s with all these overly wordy descriptions of the murder weapon? Does a single journalist know what a Molotov cocktail is?
    Violence and death seem to be the only answers that some people understand.

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    Because the murder was an extreme example of domestic abuse it is a relevant issue. If she could not be fair-minded she had no business being on the jury and had she given proper disclosure the defense would have had the opportunity to challenge her seating on such grounds.

    A Molotov cocktail requires a breakable container that allows the gasoline to spread on impact and then be lit by the rag serving as a fuse.

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    This appeal is almost identical to William Sallie's. We all know how this card worked out for him.
    Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next products.

    "They will hurt you. They will hurt your grandma, these people. The root cause of this is there's no discipline in the homes, they don't go to school, you know, they live off the government, no personal accountability, and they just beat people up for no reason, and it's disgusting." - Former Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post

    She didn’t begin talking about the abuse until 2007, when she began seeing a therapist, and didn’t tell Hall’s attorneys about her past until this year.
    Hall was sentenced to death in 1992, she didn't talk about it until 2007. Which is peculiar since statue of limitations on rape in Tennessee is 15 years.

    Again yet another juror that waits until an execution date is set to claim they failed to do their duty during jury duty. As we saw with Storey, if this leads to a resentencing I wouldn't be surprised if more jurors who can be swayed to claim they lied during the process start coming out of the woodworking. There is no punishment for admitting you perjured yourself a year after the process.

    I have an issue believing people who sit on stories like this until after any criminal charges can be filed and reveal it this late into the appeals process publicly.
    "There is a point in the history of a society when it becomes so pathologically soft and tender that among other things it sides even with those who harm it, criminals, and does this quite seriously and honestly. Punishing somehow seems unfair to it, and it is certain that imagining ‘punishment’ and ‘being supposed to punish’ hurts it, arouses fear in it." Friedrich Nietzsche

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    This is a bull argument literally everyone has a bias against domestic abuse to say otherwise it’s to deny reality. Honestly jury trials were a mistake judges alone should be the ones deciding things at least then we can ignore these idiotic arguments.

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    There's absolutely no reason a different 12th juror wouldn't have also voted for death. Any legal error is harmless and no relief or stay is warranted in anyway.
    Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next products.

    "They will hurt you. They will hurt your grandma, these people. The root cause of this is there's no discipline in the homes, they don't go to school, you know, they live off the government, no personal accountability, and they just beat people up for no reason, and it's disgusting." - Former Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters

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