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    Death Penalty Pursued for Patrick Wood Crusius in 2019 TX Mass Shooting


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    Patrick Crusius and mugshot at right



    'Multiple deaths' in shooting at Walmart in El Paso: officials

    Officials say multiple people have been killed and a suspect taken in custody in second such fatal shooting in a week

    By Aljazeera

    Officials in the US state of Texas say "multiple people" have been killed during a shooting at a Walmart store in El Paso and at least one suspect has been taken into custody.

    Texas police on Saturday said they had "multi reports" of multiple shooters in the Cielo Vista mall area on the outskirts of El Paso city.

    At least two officials - the mayor's chief of staff Olivia Zepeda and police spokesman Enrique Carrillo - told reporters that "multiple people were killed" in the shooting.

    Carrillo later told reporters the attack had ended with a suspect taken into custody.

    "We have between 15 and 20 casualties, we don't know the number of fatalities," Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick told Fox News network.

    A University Medical Center of El Paso official later confirmed one of the 12 people received by the hospital has died.

    Ryan Mielke, a hospital spokesman, also said two children, aged 2 and 9, were stabilised at the medical centre before being transferred to the neighbouring El Paso Children's Hospital.

    He added that all of the victims suffered traumatic injuries, but he did not elaborate.

    The White House said President Donald Trump has been briefed on the shooting and has spoken to Attorney General William Barr and Governor Greg Abbott.

    Trump later said on Twitter the shooting was "very bad".

    "Terrible shootings in El Paso, Texas. Reports are very bad, many killed. Working with State and Local authorities, and Law Enforcement. Spoke to Governor to pledge total support of Federal Government. God be with you all!" Trump said.

    Al Jazeera's Alan Fisher, reporting from Washington, DC, said the El Paso mayor confirmed multiple fatalities.

    "We are told that 18 people have been taken to hospital with injuries ranging from minor to critical. It's thought the dead are among those 18," he said.

    A witness, who gave her name as Vanessa, said she had just pulled into the car park of the Walmart and "all of a sudden you heard what sounded like fireworks, really loud fireworks".

    "You could hear the pops, one right after another and at that point as I was turning, I saw a lady, seemed she was coming out of Walmart, headed to her car. She had her groceries in her cart and I saw her just fall," she told Fox News.

    The witness told Fox that she had seen one man open fire wearing what appeared to be combat fatigues.

    "He was wearing a black T-shirt, camo coloured pants. He was wearing something to cover his ears, like headphones, really thick ones.

    "He was carrying a dark rifle and he was just pointing at people and just shooting and, yeah, the last thing I saw, he shot somebody that was in a corner."

    After seeing the woman fall in the parking lot, "that's when I thought, okay, this is not - these aren't fireworks ... He was just shooting randomly. It wasn't to any particular person. It was any that would cross paths."

    Presidential candidate and former US Representative Beto O'Rourke said he is distraught by the shooting in his hometown of El Paso.

    An emotional O'Rourke told reporters in Las Vegas that he had spoken by phone to El Paso Mayor Dee Margo, the city's sheriff and US Representative Veronica Escobar.

    O'Rourke said he planned to return home immediately to be with his family. He asked "for everyone's strength for El Paso right now. Everyone's resolve to make sure that this does not continue to happen in this country".

    On his part, Mayor Margo expressed his sadness for the victims and gratitude to the first responders in his Twitter statement.

    So did Escobar, saying she was "utterly heartbroken" by the news.

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    The suspect in the shooting at an El Paso shopping center Saturday is named as Patrick Crusius, 21, of Allen, Texas. Unknown yet as the whether Crusius will be indicted on charges of capital murder and faces a possible death sentence.
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    What do you mean if he will be indicted on charges of capital murder and face a possible death sentence, Ryan? After all it is TX.

    I hope TX gets to prosecute this and not the feds if it turns out to be a hate crime.


    The FBI is investigating this as a hate crime. There is a manifesto online that they believe was posted by the shooter just prior to the shooting.

    The police chief just said they are treating this as a capital crime with the potential for the death penalty.

    20 people are dead and 26 were wounded in the attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    I hope TX gets to prosecute this and not the feds if it turns out to be a hate crime.
    Normally, I would be 100% in agreement here and just consider federal investigation to be a waste of time. However, if the feds prosecute this, then he would face a more limited appeals process, which would be handled by the 5th Circuit, so maybe he’d exhaust his appeals faster at the federal level? Normally of course, that wouldn’t matter, but seeing Barr take steps to restart the federal death penalty, maybe there’s a brief window of chance here that a federal sentence would get him to the gurney quicker. This is, of course, assuming that Republicans win at least the presidency next year.
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    He won't make it to execution, unless he gets shived in he lunch line he will live the rest of his life in prison.

    El Paso is pretty spotty on death sentences as well.
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    Keep in mind that people in Oklahoma and perhaps the rest of the uS were skeptical that jurors in Colorado would hand down a death sentence to Timothy McVeigh especially since the trail was right in Denver despite Denver's spotty history. El Paso people might decide that those mass shootings have continued in Colorado since Nathan Dunlap hasn't been executed and James Holmes was one juror short of a death sentence for his role in the movie theater shootings.

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    @Helen, it is highly probable to be tried in Texas. Feds may also take this case hence a hate crime! What i meant is, one juror who does not vote for a death sentence would encounter a LWOP sentence.
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    Mass shooting leaves at least 20 dead, dozens injured in El Paso, police say

    By Chris Francescani, Aaron Katersky and Joshua Hoyos
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    Twenty people were killed and dozens more injured on Saturday morning in a massacre at an El Paso, Texas, Walmart that was packed with back-to-school shoppers, making it one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history, officials said.

    The wounded ranged in age from a 2-year-old child to an 82-year-old victim.

    The suspect was identified by authorities as Patrick Crusius, 21, of Allen, Texas.

    He was "taken into custody without incident" and without any law enforcement officers firing their weapons, according to El Paso Police Department Sgt. Robert Gomez. He later told investigators he wanted to shoot as many Mexicans as possible, two law enforcement officials told ABC News.

    The officials also said an assault-style rifle, similar to an AK-47, was secured at the scene along with several magazines.

    At a news conference on Saturday night, El Paso police chief Greg Allen said that 20 people had died and 26 more had been injured. Allen said authorities are examining what he called a “manifesto” that they believe was written by the shooter and shows a possible “nexus” to a hate crime.

    The majority of the victims were shot inside the Walmart, according to Gomez. More than 100 employees and between 1,000 and 3,000 Saturday morning back-to-school shoppers were inside the store at the time, according to a preliminary estimate.

    A spokesperson for El Paso's Del Sol Medical Center said that 11 victims ranging in age from 35 to 82 were being treated at the facility. University Medical Center of El Paso received an additional 13 victims -- two of whom were children, ages 2 and 9, who were stabilized and transferred to El Paso Children's Hospital, according to officials.

    A hospital spokesperson said that nine patients were in critical condition and three had life-threatening injuries.

    At 2 p.m. local time, the El Paso Police Department issued a tweet making an urgent request for blood donations, and directing local residents to two facilities run by Vitalent Blood Services where they could donate blood. Within three hours, photos posted to social media showed lines stretching around the block at locations accepting local blood donors.

    'On a mission'

    Allen, the police chief, said the first 911 call came in at 10:39 a.m. local time, and that emergency responders were on the scene at 10:45.

    The shooting began in the parking lot outside the Walmart, according to an eyewitness who said she heard gunshots as she drove through the parking lot with her mother.

    Shopper Vanessa Saenz described the shooter in an interview with ABC News Radio as dressed in cargo pants and a black t-shirt, wearing ear protectors and said he looked like he was "dancing."

    Moments later, Saenz saw a woman a few feet away fall to the ground.

    She then described seeing victims near the shooter who became cornered -- with nowhere to run -- and then watched the gunman raise a rifle, aim it at them and start firing.

    "The one thing I'll never forget is the way he walked into Walmart, very confident. He was on a mission and that's when it hit me," she later told ABC News anchor Tom Llamas in an interview for "World New Tonight."

    At 12:11 p.m. local time, the El Paso Police Department had issued a tweet that said in part, "We have multi reports of multiple shooters."

    Police had reports that there were shootings at various locations within the mall, and initially said they had detained three suspects, but Gomez later clarified that just one person had been arrested.

    "At this time, we do have one person in custody. We don't believe there's anybody outstanding," he said.

    The Walmart is located at the Cielo Vista Mall, one of the city's most popular malls, particularly among Mexican tourists who cross the U.S. border to shop there before returning to Mexico.

    At least three Mexican nationals were killed in the attack, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said.

    At 11:35 a.m local time, the Dallas office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) issued a tweet saying ATF agents were responding as well.

    Walmart issued a statement about the shooting on the retailer's Twitter account.

    “We're in shock over the tragic events at Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso,” the statement said. “We’re praying for the victims, the community & our associates, as well as the first responders. We’re working closely with law enforcement & will update as appropriate.”

    President Donald Trump has been briefed on the shooting and is monitoring the situation, according to White House Deputy Press Secretary Steven Groves.

    In a tweet, the president said he had spoken with Gov. Abbott and pledged "total support of Federal Government," before ending the message 'God be with you all!'

    "On a day that would have been a normal for someone to leisurely go shopping turned into one of the most deadly days in the history of Texas. Lives were taken who should still be with us today," Texas Gov. Greg Abbott told the evening news conference. "We as a state unite in support of these victims and their family members."

    Rep. Veronica Escobar, who represents Texas's 16th Congressional District, said at the same event that while investigators must complete an investigation, the "manifesto" suggested the shooting could have been an act of "domestic terrorism."

    "The manifesto narrative is fueled by hate, and it's fueled by racism and bigotry and division," Escobar said. "This is someone who came from outside of our community to do us harm. A community that has shown nothing but generosity and kindness to the least among us -- those people arriving at America's front door."

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    Get shot. Live less. Only at Walmart........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    He won't make it to execution, unless he gets shived in he lunch line he will live the rest of his life in prison.

    El Paso is pretty spotty on death sentences as well.
    I am sure it will be a DP case, it will get a change of venue to a rural county and he will probably be sentenced to death. They will probably only try him for one or two of the murders

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