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    Scheduled for conference December 11, once again rescheduled the same day. God Gutierrez is a pathetic coward
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    Distributed for conference January 8, 2021.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....c/19-8695.html
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    Distributed for conference January 15, 2021.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....c/19-8695.html
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    Distributed for conference January 22, 2021.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....c/19-8695.html
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    US Supreme Court Orders Another Look At Texas Death Row Case Of Murderer Ruben Gutierrez


    WASHINGTON (CBSDFW.COM/AP) — The US Supreme Court has ordered a further review by a lower court of a lawsuit brought by a Texas death row inmate who objects to a policy that bars a chaplain from accompanying him into the death chamber.

    The justices ordered Ruben Gutierrez’s case sent back to a federal trial-level court for additional proceedings. In June justices blocked Gutierrez’s execution after Texas changed its policy and barred all spiritual advisers from the death chamber.

    Gutierrez’s attorneys argue his religious rights are being violated. The justices in June had asked a lower court to determine whether there would be “serious security problems” if Texas’ death row inmates were allowed to choose spiritual advisers to accompany them into the death chamber. The lower court said no.

    On Monday, in a brief order, the high court sent the case back to the trial court. The justices said that given the lower court’s findings that there would be no serious security problems if spiritual advisers were allowed, the lower court should now consider “the merits of petitioner’s underlying claims.”

    Texas had previously allowed state-employed clergy to accompany inmates into the room where they’d be executed. But the state changed its policy in 2019, barring all clergy from the death chamber. That change came after the Supreme Court halted the execution of another inmate, Patrick Murphy, who requested a Buddhist adviser be allowed in the chamber. Texas’ prison staff included only Christian and Muslim clerics, meaning Murphy’s adviser would have had to observe from a different room. By changing the policy, Texas argued all inmates were being treated the same.

    “A condemned prisoner’s access to the comfort and guidance of a spiritual advisor at the time of his death is not a matter of convenience, it is a fundamental right,” Gutierrez’s attorney Shawn Nolan said in a statement after the Supreme Court acted Monday.

    Gutierrez is to be executed for stabbing 85-year-old Escolastica Harrison to death. Prosecutors said Gutierrez was attempting to steal more than $600,000 that Harrison had hidden in her Brownsville home in 1998.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/dfw.cbs...ez-murder/amp/
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    Are you kidding me?! What is the deal with not wanting to execute this clown?! He’s not innocent, he’s not intellectually disabled, he’s literally got no claims. There is no point in having a lower court review this. The coward already wasted seven months asking for ridiculous extensions of time just to delay the inevitable. This is beyond ridiculous
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    I’m gonna go on a limb here and say he’s never getting executed. Patrick Murphy is still alive. It’s taking the 5th circuit 8000 years to review his claims.

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    Just let the chaplains in and moot the appeal.
    Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next products.

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    Patrick Murphy wanted a Buddhist Chaplin and he got stayed over that. So Texas no longer allowed chaplins in the death chamber. Then Gutierrez wanted a chaplin and got stayed over that too. Texas just needs to allow Chaplins from all religions into the chamber and give the inmate a choice over whether they want one or not
    Thank you for the adventure - Axol

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    Hear me, my chiefs! I am tired. My heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever. - Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekt

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    If a chaplain from the inmate's choice of religion must be present in the death chamber, what's to keep a bunch of antis from making up a religion, with the "spiritual advisor" insisting on escorting the condemned to the hereafter by dancing, shaking rattles and bells, screeching "prayers" and sacrificing a chicken in the death chamber?

    There's an interesting discussion about limits to the "absolute" first-amendment right to practice ones religion here.

    Wouldn't the 1990 Employment Division v. Smith decision pertain here?
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