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    This guy's physical appearance makes me sad. I can't imagine looking that disgusting in 40 years.
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    "They will hurt you. They will hurt your grandma, these people. The root cause of this is there's no discipline in the homes, they don't go to school, you know, they live off the government, no personal accountability, and they just beat people up for no reason, and it's disgusting." - Former Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters

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    Mentally ill Mexican immigrant scheduled for execution tonight sues Texas appeals court

    On a winter day in 1992, a neighbor heard screams coming from the home of Robert Moreno Ramos. Had they gone inside, they might have seen the bodies, the blood. And, later, the dug up bathroom floor where the slain family was buried.

    Instead, it took two months for police to stumble across the murder of the Hidalgo County man's wife and children - but Ramos has long said he wasn't the one who did it.

    Now, more than a quarter-century later, the mentally ill and brain damaged Mexican immigrant is scheduled for execution Wednesday night, despite claims of lousy lawyering and international treaty violations.

    "Any death sentence carried out in contravention of a government's international obligations amounts to an arbitrary execution," United Nations officials said in a statement. "We call for his death sentence to be annulled and for Mr. Ramos Moreno to be re-tried in compliance with due process and international fair trial standards."

    And, as courts denied the condemned man's claims, his attorney on Tuesday filed a lawsuit against the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, accusing the court of previously appointing Ramos a lawyer so unqualified it violates the Constitution.

    Hidalgo County prosecutors did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Ramos was arrested for capital murder in 1992, after he was picked up on a traffic warrant. Police questioned him without a lawyer, and eventually he let them search his Progreso home.

    When they found blood in the bathroom, he agreed to make them a map. Investigators followed it, and found the bodies of his wife - Leticia Ramos - and her children, Abigail and Jonathan.

    Even though his drawing led police to the gruesome scene, Ramos said he wasn't the killer. Instead, he said, he found the bodies one day when he came home - and he only buried them in the bathroom so his other son wouldn't find out.

    Ramos was charged, but he didn't get a lawyer until three months after his arrest, according to court records. During his trial, prosecutors argued that he'd beaten his wife and youngest children to death - then married another woman days later.

    Defense lawyers argued that unknown drug dealers committed the triple slaying. Ramos was convicted in 1993 and sentenced to death in a matter of hours.

    In the punishment phase - the part of the trial where a jury decides whether or not to vote for a death sentence - attorneys for Ramos offered no evidence, made an "almost incomprehensible" five-page closing argument, gave no reason to oppose a death sentence and didn't even bother to ask the jury to spare their client's life, according to court records.

    The jurors never heard evidence of his brain dysfunction, lifelong mental illness or shockingly brutal childhood with a father who regularly whipped him with a chain and hung him upside down.

    As a foreign national, Ramos should have been told of his right to notify his country's consulate of his arrest long before trial, as dictated by the Vienna Conventions on Consular Relations. But Mexican officials only found out through news reports nearly a year after the fact, according to court records.

    During appeals, attorneys for Ramos said that late notification could have made a difference because Mexico typically provides added defense support in capital cases. And in a case troubled by bad lawyering, that support could have helped.

    The state argued, among other things, that extra help from Mexico wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of the case.

    The courts refused to side with Ramos on the alleged treaty violations, in part because the Vienna Conventions are only enforceable between countries - so it's not up to American federal courts to enforce the application of international treaties in individual criminal cases.

    In recent weeks, Ramos has focused in on claims that his early appeals attorneys weren't up to the task. Starting in the mid-1990s, the Court of Criminal Appeals appointed Ramos a post-conviction lawyer with no experience in capital cases, who later admitted he didn't have the resources or training necessary and "was simply not equipped" to do the job. He filed a bare-bones appeal without conducting any sort of investigation or presenting any new claims outside the trial record - so he never caught the bad lawyering Ramos allegedly suffered during trial.

    When the justices turned Ramos down in the days before his execution, his current attorney - Houston-based lawyer Danalynn Recer - filed a federal lawsuit on Tuesday, accusing the court of violating the condemned prisoner's constitutional rights to counsel, due process and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment.

    "The people of Texas have a strong interest in not allowing this freakishly improbable injustice to go on any longer," Recer said in a statement early Wednesday. "Mr. Moreno Ramos is not asking for his second or third bite at the apple; he is still waiting for his first."

    Texas has executed 10 men this year, and - including Ramos - six more are scheduled to die in the coming months.

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...r-13391115.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    "The people of Texas have a strong interest in not allowing this freakishly improbable injustice to go on any longer," Recer said in a statement early Wednesday.
    I think the people of Texas have a stronger interest in making sure fewer family murderers live in their state.

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    According to the Austin Chronicle, a stay was denied by the 5th Circuit yesterday. SCOTUS is his only hope.
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    "They will hurt you. They will hurt your grandma, these people. The root cause of this is there's no discipline in the homes, they don't go to school, you know, they live off the government, no personal accountability, and they just beat people up for no reason, and it's disgusting." - Former Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters

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    Ramos entered Huntsville death house 1.40pm

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    Ryan what is your source for the times you post?

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    Here is Texas' opposition to the stay request. Pages 6 and 7 describe Ramos' violent behavior in graphic detail.

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPD...Final-File.pdf
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    "They will hurt you. They will hurt your grandma, these people. The root cause of this is there's no discipline in the homes, they don't go to school, you know, they live off the government, no personal accountability, and they just beat people up for no reason, and it's disgusting." - Former Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters

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    Nothing new. I just like the headline

    Execution delay denied as Texas death row inmate set to die at sundown

    A Texas death row inmate, set to die at sundown Wednesday, was hoping a judge would grant his last-minute effort to have his execution delayed. But, in an order signed at 2:21 p.m.--just 3 hours, 39 minutes before his scheduled execution--a federal judge denied Roberto Moreno Ramos' request.

    In the order, U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel wrote, "...a federal court lacks the general power to issue writs of mandamus to direct state courts and their judicial officers in the performance of their duties..." The decision meant the federal court had no jurisdiction in the case.

    With that, the state of Texas will execute Ramos at 6 p.m. tonight.

    https://www.kxan.com/news/investigat...ion/1596620507
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    Texas executes Mexican national

    By Joseph Brown
    The Huntsville Item

    A Hidalgo County man was thankful to his homeland government moments before becoming the 11th man executed by the State of Texas this year.

    Robert Ramos, a Mexican national, was put to death by lethal injection on Wednesday at the Huntsville “Walls” Unit.

    He was pronounced dead 11 minutes after the lethal dose of Pentobarbital.

    The official time of death was 9:36 p.m., after the execution was delayed nearly three hours pending a U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

    “I am very thankful for all the hard work the Mexican Consulate fighting in over my death sentence,” Ramos said in his final statement. “If there is a reason or not, I’m thankful for the humane treatment I received at the two prisons I was at.

    “I am getting my gold watch that it took the governor thirty years to forge. Lord send me a chariot. I’m ready.”

    Four media witnesses and three friends watched Ramos’ execution along with and multiple prison and law enforcement officials. He was in communication with representatives from the Mexican consulate hours before his death.

    After the lethal dose began Ramos was breathing heavily and praying under his breath. He began snoring shortly

    Ramos was sent to Texas death row in 1993 for the sledgehammer killings of his wife and two children the prior year at the family home in Progreso.

    The victims include his 42-year-old wife Leticia, 7-year-old daughter Abigail, and 3-year-old son Jonathan.

    Just hours before the execution, Ramos’ attorney asked the U.S. Supreme Court to stop his execution, after claims that he is a “bipolar, brain-injured” person who was severely abused as a child.

    Mexican officials also called for Ramos' execution to be stayed, arguing that he's part of a group of Mexican citizens condemned in the U.S. who were never told when first arrested that they could seek legal help from the Mexican government, which they claim was a violation of The Vienna Convention.

    The Supreme Court ruled not to hear the case at 9 p.m. Wednesday night.

    Three retired appellate judges from the Texas Court of Criminal Appeal filed an amicus brief to the Supreme Court in support of a stay.

    The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals and the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals turned down requests to halt Ramos' execution last month.

    Background

    Court records state that in February 1992 Ramos killed his wife and children with a sledgehammer and buried them beneath the bathroom floor of the family home.

    Officials said the victims were found more than a month later with a cause of death deemed to be skull fractures. Ramos’ daughters hands were bound by tape and her mouth was gagged prior to her death.

    Ramos initially said that his family died in an automobile accident, but later confessed to the murders. Officials say that he fled to Arkansas to discard the murder weapon, which was never recovered.

    Ramos married another woman three days after the triple-homicide and moved her into the home where the victims were buried.

    https://www.itemonline.com/news/texa..._medium=social

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