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    They had it for 46 years. The liberal excuse doesn't work when its been 46 YEARS. It's been again 46 years since they reinstated and they had a single voluntary execution. They won't bring it back unless there is a complete political realignment of the entire state that pushes it to what the "Right" was 40 years ago and Trump ain't it.
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    (1) An initiative can succeed even in a state "controlled by antis", as California is.

    The very purpose of initiatives and referenda is to provide a check on elected officials.

    (If any state like Texas was really going blue, the current Republican legislature should establish initiatives and referenda to limit the powers of their Democratic successors. Virginia Republicans, among others, can now regret to not have done so.)

    (2) A "victory on the paper" is also a political victory, to legitimate the death penalty overall.

    Keep also in mind that the death penalty constitutionality is determined by the so-called "standards of decency".

    (3) In a legal system a "victory on the paper" is often a mandatory first step before any other sort of victory.

    California had its first post-Furman execution 20 years after its first ballot measure supporting the death penalty.
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    A political victory is physically removing the execution equipment out of their rooms and posting CLOSED signs on them. That's what the people's vote got. A Closed Sign.

    California had its last execution post- Furman 33 years after prop 17 of 73.

    What stopped it? Unelected judges. The will of governors that want the opposite of what voters keep demanding.

    You can't beat the kleptocracy that is creeping in all these states like Colorado with a referendum vote.
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    Most people support the death penalty, most people don't passionately support the death penalty. It just isn't an issue that people will protest in the streets about one way or the other. I support the death penalty, but like most voters it isn't high on my list of priorities when I vote for someone to represent me. I also won't contribute money in support of it or march in a demonstration in support of it. I have talked with others who support the DP and they are much the same way.

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    The biggest issues that people care about are education and good jobs. That's what will make you have a better life. Then you focus on social issues if your heart desires

    The death penalty, a constitutional amendment against flag burning, and the second amendment are three social issues where conservatism still has relevance. It boggles me when conservatives focus on overturning Roe vs Wade. That’s something that will never happen and most people in this country are pro choice.

    Basically, if there ever is a ballot drive to counter the repeal attempt they better hurry up. Polis said he’ll commute the sentences of the three on death row. They have til August third to get it on the ballot. It’s probably unlikely to happen. States like North Dakota, West Virginia, Alaska, and Iowa would suffice. They'd make good small death penalty states to replace Colorado, Maryland, etc.

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    Colorado lawmakers set to approve death penalty repeal

    By Keith Coffman
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    DENVER - State lawmakers in Denver were expected to pass and send to the governor on Wednesday a bill that would repeal the death penalty in Colorado, making it the 22nd state to abolish capital punishment over the past 15 years.

    The Colorado Senate adopted the measure in January, and the state House of Representatives set the stage for final passage with a preliminary vote in favor of the bill early on Tuesday, capping a 12-hour floor debate.

    Both chambers of the General Assembly are controlled by Democrats, although two Republican senators are co-sponsors of the measure.

    Governor Jared Polis, a first-term Democrat, intends to sign the bill into law if it reaches his desk, his spokesman told Reuters via email.

    Twenty-nine U.S. states, including Colorado, have the death penalty on their books, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Capital punishment also remains in the criminal code of the federal government and U.S. military justice system.

    If the Colorado repeal is enacted, it would mark the 22nd state since 2004 to abolish the death penalty by legislation or court action, according to the Washington-based Death Penalty Information Center, which tracks the issue.

    Public support for capital punishment has ebbed considerably in the meantime, slipping to a 47-year low in 2019 as 60% of Americans expressed a preference for life imprisonment over execution as the severest form of punishment, the center said in report in December, citing a Gallup poll.

    One factor driving the decline has been the advent of more highly sophisticated DNA technology that has helped exonerate individuals wrongly convicted of capital crimes.

    Supporters of repeal point to the irrevocable nature of capital punishment, as well as to evidence that the death penalty is often imposed disproportionately on minorities and the poor.

    “The death penalty is immoral, it is applied inconsistently, and it is the one punishment in our entire justice system that can't be undone or corrected,” state Representative Adrienne Benavidez said, a Democratic sponsor of the Colorado bill.

    Colorado has just three men on death row, and has executed just one inmate - by lethal injection - since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated capital punishment in 1976 after a four-year nationwide moratorium.

    Opponents of the bill argued during the House debate that even though Colorado rarely carries out executions, prosecutors use the threat of capital punishment to pressure murder defendants into pleading guilty, sparing victims’ families lengthy and painful trials.

    Representative Lori Saine, a Republican, read a letter from a prosecutor who said he used the threat of the death penalty to secure guilty pleas from a defendant who murdered his pregnant wife and two small daughters in 2018.

    Last week, Tennessee put an inmate to death by electric chair, the fourth execution in the United States this year.

    https://kfgo.com/2020/02/26/colorado...penalty-repeal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thakker View Post
    It boggles me when conservatives focus on overturning Roe vs Wade. That’s something that will never happen and most people in this country are pro choice.
    More people are passionate about saving the unborn than you might think. The March for life draws millions of people.

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    Yeah that’s countered with rallies such as the women’s march. Women’s march has a lot of people for abortion. Furthmore, while I’m pro life with exceptions. There are certain cases where abortion is warranted. Ultimately, we cannot force a women not to have one. Plus, even if Roe vs Rade was overturned, it won’t last in today's time.
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    https://kdvr.com/news/local/colorado...l-to-governor/

    Colorado House passes death penalty repeal, sending bill to governor


    DENVER (AP) — Colorado is close to becoming the 22nd U.S. state to abolish the death penalty.

    House lawmakers on Wednesday approved a repeal bill and sent it to Democratic Gov. Jared Polis, who has pledged to sign it into law.

    It’s the sixth death penalty repeal effort in the state since 2009.

    The bill picked up some bipartisan support this year. It would not apply to three men on Colorado’s death row.

    But Polis has suggested he might consider clemency for them if it’s asked for.

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    Another one goes down. Stapleton might’ve saved it had he won. Like I said, West Virginia, Iowa, Alaska, and North Dakota will give juice to the death penalty. As for us capital punishment proponents, Trump winning re-election is key. Otherwise, we’ll never see an execution again in the United States.

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