Like Mike said you can forget about conservatives doing anything about the death penalty. They had a perfect opportunity to stop retroactive hurst relief but they didn’t. Florida is a joke of a death penalty state at this point.
Like Mike said you can forget about conservatives doing anything about the death penalty. They had a perfect opportunity to stop retroactive hurst relief but they didn’t. Florida is a joke of a death penalty state at this point.
Officials should have figured out a long time ago that Florida needs a CCA to streamline the appeals process and to have the trial court set the date of execution instead of the governor. Other than appeals at every stage decelerating the death warrant process, they still have the trifecta of government to make this scenario possible to speed things up a bit. Is it really that hard for any one legislator to figure that out?
The government making something efficient? What are you crazy?
"There is a point in the history of a society when it becomes so pathologically soft and tender that among other things it sides even with those who harm it, criminals, and does this quite seriously and honestly. Punishing somehow seems unfair to it, and it is certain that imagining ‘punishment’ and ‘being supposed to punish’ hurts it, arouses fear in it." Friedrich Nietzsche
Any bets on this being appealed to the eleventh circuit? I mean good grief this is an absolute joke. 150 evil people could live due to this horrid reversal they might as well not said anything about receding from hurst to begin with they made a complete reversal on this.
91 people haven't been resentenced yet to be exact. I highly doubt that the state court is going to get overturned here since this is a state issue and not a federal one. We knew that Hurst was bad and many of these guys were lost anyway. The supposedly "conservative" court just strung out this resentencing process another three years for no reason for them to just uphold this in the end. Again I fell justified in not having faith in DeSantis and his picks they seem to be just as bad as all the others so far.
Last edited by Mike; 11-26-2020 at 01:53 AM.
"There is a point in the history of a society when it becomes so pathologically soft and tender that among other things it sides even with those who harm it, criminals, and does this quite seriously and honestly. Punishing somehow seems unfair to it, and it is certain that imagining ‘punishment’ and ‘being supposed to punish’ hurts it, arouses fear in it." Friedrich Nietzsche
Yeah this is true. The DeSantis judges are just as bad as the others. They do a complete reversal on Hurst and they just go back to this. DeSantis didn’t even sign a death warrant this year he’s Charlie Crist 2.0 on the DP. He’s definitely to the right of Crist but nowhere near as conservative as anyone thought. I still think they should give this a go federally. Who knows? They could be successful.
Last edited by Neil; 11-26-2020 at 07:16 AM.
The court basically ruled that once the original decision granting relief became final, they cannot go back later and reverse the decision. Final means final. The sentence is already vacated. Appealing to SCOTUS is not going to help.
Then why back off Hurst to begin with? After all, they reinstated Pooles death sentence.
Last edited by Neil; 11-26-2020 at 09:09 AM.
The state appealed the reversal of Poole's death sentence so the decision was never final. In contrast, Okafor's case had already been previously ruled on by the Florida Supreme Court. In the Jackson case, the state didn't even bother appealing until the Poole decision came out at which point the decision was already final.
What I want to know is that if the decisions were never finalized then for the remaining 91 can the trail court just reinstate the death sentence? They way the article made it seem is like that all of them are going to trial again.
If so, the only way to cure that is if the legislature ultimately passed a non unanimous law and somehow made it apply to the Hurst defendants.
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