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    Senior Member Frequent Poster Shep3's Avatar
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    Christopher vialva is black and will be executed this month. I don’t think race has anything to do with it they are just picking those whose appeals have run out, don’t have active stays that have to be thrown out(like the Richmond killers), and whose guilt is not in doubt.

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    Vialva is going in a bunch, Gray would go by himself. That isn't the optics Trump wants.
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    Doubtful if anything gray would be one to wait simply cause he’s be the first military execution since 1961 and would get more media attention something he seams to want to minimize by going after non sensational cases

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    I doubt military prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for the 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his co-conspirators? Under a Biden Administration, this is highly unlikely?! Trump would seek the death penalty in their cases
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    September 13, 2022

    Republicans slam Biden over plea deal negotiations with al Qaeda 9/11 plotters

    By Jerry Dunleavy
    The Washington Examiner

    Republicans are condemning the Biden administration’s decision to enter into plea deal negotiations with the al Qaeda mastermind and facilitators of the 9/11 terrorist attacks — which could take the death penalty off the table.

    Negotiations between prosecutors and defense attorneys at Guantanamo Bay could reportedly result in guilty plea deals in which capital punishment would not be a possible punishment for 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four co-defendants.

    Top Republicans have criticized any such possibility.

    “Joe Biden’s allies are negotiating lesser sentences for 9/11 attackers,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), the ranking member on the House Judiciary Committee, tweeted. “If they won’t punish terrorists, how can we trust them to lock up criminals in your neighborhood?”

    The House Armed Services Committee’s Republicans said: “The Biden admin is doing the unthinkable – they are considering offering the terrorists, who organized those attacks, plea deals to escape the death penalty” and that “these terrorists killed thousands of innocent people – they deserve the death penalty.”

    After 21 years, justice has yet to be attained in the case against the plotters of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and a year of plea negotiations and canceled hearings at Guantanamo Bay has pushed any potential trial back even further.

    Ronald Flesvig, a spokesman for the Office of Military Commissions, confirmed that “the parties are currently engaged in preliminary plea negotiations.”

    In the more than two decades since the terror attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, the five men said to be responsible for the planning and execution of the plot have yet to stand trial.

    Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH), the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, criticized any effort to take capital punishment off the table for Mohammed and his co-defendants.

    “Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his accomplices planned the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks [and are] responsible for the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans,” Turner told the Washington Examiner in March. “It is unconscionable that military prosecutors would even entertain the idea of a plea agreement that removed the possibility of the death penalty.”

    One key unresolved question for getting the 9/11 trial started is the admissibility of confessions obtained by the FBI after the CIA subjected them to “enhanced interrogation techniques” — called “torture” by some.

    “At a bare minimum, we are at least one year away from trial,” Air Force Col. Matthew McCall, the presiding judge for the 9/11 case, said in September 2021, shortly after taking over the case. Hearings were held around the 20th anniversary of the attacks last year, but the case has made little pretrial progress since then. The co-defendants appeared in court a year ago for the first time since February 2020 due to delays caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. There were also pretrial hearings held in November 2021, but no 9/11-related hearings since then.

    Mohammed, dubbed "KSM" and described as “the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks” in the 9/11 Commission Report, was a close ally of Osama bin Laden and was repeatedly waterboarded in numerous sessions while in U.S. custody. Mohammed is being tried alongside four co-defendants: his nephew, Ammar al Baluchi, who sent money transfers to 9/11 hijackers inside the United States; alleged hijacking trainer Walid bin Attash; 9/11 facilitator Ramzi bin al Shibh; and al Qaeda money man Mustafa al Hawsawi.

    The 9/11 trial delay comes as the Biden administration has continued to say it wants to shut down detainee operations at Guantanamo Bay. Approximately 780 total suspected terrorists are known to have been detained at Guantanamo Bay since 2002, and it is believed that 36 remain, according to the Guantanamo Docket tracker.

    Republicans have sought to block Biden's efforts to shut the facility down as well.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...s-911-plotters
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