In Andrew Grant DeYoungs topic I read some horrible things about europeans from stixfix69 I donīt want to keep unanswered. To keep the topic free from Off-topic I started this topic.
I visited the US since 2006 7 times, I have contact with US citizens in real (mostly soldiers since birth (f.e. neighbours)) and online. I follow the news, read books and newspapers which discuss other issues than Michele Obamas clothing or stories about royals. That doesenīt make me an expert of the US, but I made my own opinion.
At first I want to say that you canīt compare Europa and the US. We have a lot of common believes, but Europe and the US made different developments since a few centuries. Personaly I believe in the transatlantic friendship and I hope we can stay together in future. Iīll prefer the US as partner instead of Russia or China.
You canīt take one point out of context. Itīs true that there had been riots f.e. in Greece. We can discuss the issue about Greece if you want. Itīs just unfair to use this example and declare Europa as a part of the world without civility.
Through Wikipedia I found some riots in the US/north America, too. Mostly after some teams lost games or due to racial reasons. I donīt use this examples to say all americans are hooligans nor I write that all us citizens are racist.
In Greece is the problem that the people loose more or less everything. Theyīre in fear and helpless. I doubt that the US will be a peacefull country if they would run out off money at the beginning of august. Do you think the people accept it without complaining that they wonīt get wellfare, retirement, .... ? You can read the news about Wisconsin in february what happened there...
... and it was an error to went into the Iraq with a lie. It was the idea to get "your" hands on the iraqian oil and to remove Sadam who doesenīt want to be Washingtons puppet anymore. The genozid wasnīt the true motive. It was about Saddams WMD which had been never found. There are other countries f.e. in Africa with a genozid too, but nobody cares.
The US lost a lot of credibility in the world and in Guantanamo itīs moral innocence. Referd to the US you lost in Iraq a lot of daughters and sons of your country. A lot of them returned with injuries on body and brain.
You spend billions of Dollars to remove a corrupt dictator without a muslim belief with chaos and a extremist muslim regime. The country is now instable and the situation for the most citizens of Iraq is worser than before.
Most of the european countries ("New Europe refering" to D. Rumsfeld) arenīt happy with their participation in the Iraq War. Some countries do the same (causing chaos) in Lybia at the moment.
Some words about the european opinion about the DP. Western Europe is (Iīm sorry) safer than the US. The risk of being murdered is much lesser than in the US. This is similar on a lot of other crimes (I have my theory that this is related to the drug problem in the US). Also we donīt have as much TV stations as in the US. We donīt have stations who follow up crimes mostly all day long. Crime isnīt therefore such a big issue for us.
The people donīt care much about crime and how to punish it. Eventualy we have not the majority, but a remarkable amout of people in Europe who support the DP anyway.
I hope you got my points stixfix69. I donīt want to be rude, I just wanted to make my points.
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