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    I am devastated. Nothing like this has ever happened in Virginia Beach.
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    SATURDAY:
    8 a.m: Virginia Beach officials have identified the 12 victims, and the shooter during there press conference this morning:

    Laquita C. Brown

    Tara Welch Gallagher

    Mary Louise Gayle

    Alexander Mikhail Gusev

    Katherine A. Nixon

    Richard H. Nettleton

    Christopher Kelly Rapp

    Michelle “Missy” Langer

    Robert “Bobby” Williams

    Herbert “Bert” Snelling

    Joshua A Hardy

    Ryan Keith Cox
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    Sickening, Heidi.
    "Sorry for the delay, I got caught in traffic." — Rodney Scott Berget, South Dakota, October 29, 2018 — final words.

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    Hopefully in the future others will follow Virginia Beach's example. I love my city!

    Virginia Beach shines light on victims, not mass shooter

    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) — The victims of America’s latest mass shooting had been dead for less than a day when police and city officials released a detailed presentation with their names, photos, job titles and the cities or towns in which they lived.

    In all, 12 people — 11 of them city employees — were killed by the shooter who opened fire inside a municipal building.

    Far less was revealed Saturday about the man who authorities say carried out the shootings. There was no photo. And authorities promised to utter his name only once: “DeWayne Craddock,” a 40-year-old engineer who worked in the city’s utilities department.

    “We wanted to control that narrative,” Steve Cover, Virginia Beach’s deputy city manager of public safety, said of the news conference officials held the day after Friday’s shooting. “We didn’t want it to leak out piece by piece through family and friends and so forth through the media. We felt it was kind of our obligation to get that message out.”

    This sprawling city on Virginia’s coast is employing an increasingly common public information strategy: Release more details about the victims of mass shootings than of the killers — at least initially — to limit the criminals’ exposure and prevent copycat shootings.

    A similar tack was taken in March after a mass shooting in New Zealand. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern promised to deny a platform for the white supremacist who authorities said gunned down 50 people at two mosques

    “The goal is to kind of interrupt the cycle of new mass shooters citing previous ones, and the new mass shooters who are becoming role models for even more attackers,” said Adam Lankford, a criminologist at the University of Alabama.

    Lankford has studied the influence of publicity on future shooters and has urged the news media to not name or release photos of the perpetrators.

    “What the guy’s face looks like is not the sort of information that will help stop the next mass shooting,” he said.

    But James Alan Fox, a professor at Northeastern University who has studied mass shootings, said it’s appropriate for law enforcement officials to release basic facts.

    “It is news,” Fox said. “We provide basic details on other types of offenders.”

    It is the “act — not the actor” that influences others, he said. “The Columbine massacre, for example, inspired copycats, not the assailants’ names and faces.”

    But there is a limit to how much should be reported, Fox said. Too much about a killer’s background can “humanize” him or her and cross the line from news reporting to “celebrity watch.”

    Virginia Beach officials said more information about Friday’s shooting will come out.

    “And we will share our lessons learned,” said Cover, the deputy city manager.

    But first, officials want everyone to know the profound loss the city has suffered: four engineers who worked to maintain streets and protect wetlands; three right-of-way agents who reviewed property lines; an account clerk, a technician, an administrative assistant and a special projects coordinator. In all, they had served the city of Virginia Beach for more than 150 years. The 12th victim was a contractor who was in the building to seek a permit.

    “They leave a void that we will never be able to fill,” said City Manager Dave Hansen, who had worked for years with many of the slain.

    Sandra McDonald, 54, an event planner and nanny who lives in Virginia Beach, said she supports the city’s strong focus on the victims.

    “I think sometimes these people think going out in a blaze of glory is the way they are going to have their moment of fame,” McDonald said, referring to the mass shooters. “I just think if we don’t give them that moment of fame anymore, maybe they won’t take innocent people with them.”

    Alice Scott, whose husband, Joseph Scott, worked with Craddock in the Public Utilities Department, said she can understand why people don’t want to hear the shooter’s name.

    But she said maybe after some time has passed, “we can discuss why this happened.”

    “Maybe he needed someone to talk to,” she said. “Maybe he needed to (talk) out his troubles like everybody else.”

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    WOW as of yesterday my HOMETOWN was added to one of the deadliest mass shootings in American history. Since 4 VBPD (who never worked together before) responded and went into a blind building and were involved in an extended gun battle with the shooter within 2 minutes of the 911 call and inflicted lethal wounds upon the shooter and stopped the carnage...no one seems to care since it is not a death penalty case.

    I really thought my members of my website would have been more supportive...I had one member to post shit first reach out... and posted..3 members via text, and one on the thread.

    In a city of 450,000+ everyone knows someone who knows someone.

    AS of 9:00 am tomorrow morning I am shutting the site for a few days. I have had enough death over the past month.
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    Heidi, I am so, so sorry this happened to your neighbors. I don’t understand people who think killing innocent people will make them feel better, or who think their being “wronged” somehow justifies taking a weapon to a public place and shooting people who are minding their own business. If the whole world adopted the “Living well is the best revenge” mindset, we’d have a really nice world full of satisfied people. I guess it takes too much work. Shooting everyone you see is easier. And there you have the problem with our society - so many people want to take the easy way.

    Again, I’m so sorry. My heart goes out to the families and everyone else affected by this.

    -Dawn

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    Heidi, I'm so sorry for this. I live in a quite small village where people know each other, and the only murder ever happened was a suicide/double homicide of a local lawyer who flipped out for an unknown reason and fatally shot his son, his wife and himself. It was pretty traumatic for our community, and particularly for me and my family, because the son was a friend of mine, we went to university together, and the father was a good man, an upstanding citizen who served as an attorney for my grandfather and then for my parents. Nobody knows why he did what he did, police said that maybe his beloved ones tried to stop him from committing suicide and ended up shot. I hope your community will know how to heal this terrible wound and find some peace.
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    Local storm damage from tropical storm Isaias

    Suffolk was hit by 2 tornadoes


















    Bertie County NC

    1 dead 2 small children are missing.

    Tornado hits trailer park













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    An uninformed opponent is a dangerous opponent.

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    Ha ha, defo!

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