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Thread: Werner Herzog’s "Into the Abyss"/"On Death Row"

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    I thought about it earlier this week. Plan on a chat after the show next week.

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    JKW, have you had a family member or close friend that was a victim of a heinous crime? What if your husband, wife, mother, father or child was murdered? Do you think you would feel the same after that?
    I'm interested to hear the side of the victim's families. From what I've researched the death of the murderer brings some closure to them but it can't bring the victims back it somehow makes the memory of them a little sweeter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKW View Post
    This is sad. I think the death penalty should be abolished.
    Do you have any points to support your thought or ....
    No murder can be so cruel that there are not still useful imbeciles who do gloss over the murderer and apologize.

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    I want it unAbolished

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    Death Row

    Acclaimed documentary maker Werner Herzog starts a three-part series on Channel 4 next week looking at the death penalty in the US.

    Herzog, who opposes the death penalty, spent a year filming and interviewing death row inmates about their lives.

    He focuses on the experience of living with the knowledge of how and when you are going to die.

    The first portrait is of Hank Skinner, who was sentenced to death for murder 18 years ago.

    He describes how he has had his execution scheduled three times, on one occasion having the last rites read to him and eating his final meal.

    Channel 4, 10pm Thu 22 March

    http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=27834
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    I wonder if he will ask old Hank about the cell phone up his butt and where he got it from and who paid for it. I think his wife should have been banned from visiting forever.

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    Nice heads up regarding the ID program.

    I saw Into the Abyss and I wasn't crazy about it. He got the daughter/sister of the Stotler victims to agree that lwop would have been a fitting punishment. However, in the next breath she says that some people, i.e., Perry and Burkett, deserved to be killed. It would have been more honest if it was pointed out that lwop was not on the table for these two. Nor do they deserve anything but death.

    Burkett, now in gen. pop., did father a child. His wife is repulsive. Since they obviously broke the law in doing so, I wish they would ban her from visitation. Besides showing too much of the wife, they showed too much of Burkett's father. Perry, Burkett, and Burkett the elder, appear to show great insight in their condition, however, if they were out and you met them on the street, they would have no problem carving you up for your iPod. In the film, Perry and Burkett continue to blame the other for the crimes. They are so obviously lying, too. Burkett trying to minimize his actions in the shoot out is pathetic when you view the aftermath.

    What is very hard to see is the Stotler home...very very hard. Perry/Burkett still have their groupies and it is difficult not to feel angry at them. They are literally a cult. They are truly nuts.

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    The Telegraph is reporting that the series will air tonight with old Hank Skinner as the star.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...4-preview.html

    So, the UK gets skinner and the US get carty.

    Forget that! While in the body of the article it says it starts tonight, the end states it will start next week.
    Last edited by PATRICK5; 03-16-2012 at 03:40 PM.

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    I saw that too PATRICK5. I expect misinformation from the Daily Mail not the The Telegraph.
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    So, did anyone watch it last night?

    Tooling around the internet, I find people who saw Into the Abyss talking about how moved they were by brave little Michael Perry while I was sickened by seeing the cookie sheets and the huge amount of blood that literally covered the walls and ceiling.

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