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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    It looks like the senate is going to go democrat. Collins is way down in the polls. He should just go for it. This might be his legacy right here.
    Senate seats come and go but scotus seats last forever. Take the opportunity screw the optics. I want Mitch McConnell lead the senate republicans in a Maori war dance to intimidate the democrats into submission.

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    Trump, during his speech in Minnesota, just mentioned the fact that the next President could appoint several Justices.

    People in the audience shouted "Ginsburg is dead!!", but he didn't take the bait. He should wrap it up now and head back to DC before an inappropriate moment occurs which the dems will exploit.

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    McConnell: Trump's Supreme Court nominee 'will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate'

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said unequivocally Friday night that President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee to fill the vacancy of late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg “will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.”

    Ginsburg, 87, died Friday from complications surrounding metastatic pancreas cancer.

    “The Senate and the nation mourn the sudden passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the conclusion of her extraordinary American life,” McConnell said in a statement Friday.

    “In the last midterm election before Justice Scalia’s death in 2016, Americans elected a Republican Senate majority because we pledged to check and balance the last days of a lame-duck president’s second term. We kept our promise,” McConnell continued. “Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president’s Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year.”

    McConnell added that “by contrast, Americans reelected our majority in 2016 and expanded it in 2018 because we pledged to work with President Trump and support his agenda, particularly his outstanding appointments to the federal judiciary.”

    “Once again, we will keep our promise,” he said. “President Trump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.”

    In May 2019, McConnell, R-Ky., made clear that should a vacancy materialize in the midst of the 2020 election cycle, the GOP-majority Senate would likely “fill it.”

    McConnell’s comments last year were met with criticism from Democrats who accused him of hypocrisy, based on the treatment of former President Barack Obamas Supreme Court nominee and D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals chief Judge Merrick Garland.

    Obama nominated Garland to replace the late Justice Antonin Scalia, who passed away in 2016, but McConnell and Senate Republicans refused to hold a hearing or vote on his nomination, citing the imminent 2016 presidential election.

    Speaking to Fox News last year, McConnell suggested his stance was not hypocritical -- because in 2020, Republicans would control both the White House and the Senate, unlike Democrats in 2016, who controlled only the White House.

    "You have to go back to 1880s to find the last time a Senate controlled by a party different from the president filled a vacancy on the Supreme Court that was created in the middle of a presidential election year," McConnell told Fox News.

    But the nomination and confirmation process for the latest addition to the high court, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, took 89 days total for confirmation. It took 57 days from Kavanaugh's nomination to his confirmation hearing.

    But Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., on Friday night said Ginsburg’s vacancy should not be filled until “we have a new president.”

    “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court justice,” Schumer, D-N.Y., tweeted Friday. “Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”

    There was an active vacancy after the death of Scalia in 2016, but the next presidential term could be even more significant for Supreme Court nominations.

    Ginsburg’s death leaves a vacancy; and several other justices are over 70, including Justice Stephen Breyer is 82; Clarence Thomas is 72; and Justice Samuel Alito is 70.

    Meanwhile, President Trump last week announced a list of more than 20 people he would consider nominating to the Supreme Court.

    Top contenders, prior to Ginsburg's passing, included Judge Amy Coney Barrett of the 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals; Judge Britt Grant of the 11th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals; Judge Amul Thapar of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit; Judge Steven Colloton of the 8th Circuit U-S Court of Appeals; Judge Allison Eid of the 10th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals; Judge Raymond Gruender of the 8th Circuit U-S Court of Appeals; Judge Thomas Hardiman of the 3rd Circuit U-S Court of Appeals; Judge Raymond Kethledge of the 6th Circuit U-S Court of Appeals; Judge Joan Larsen of the 6th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals; Judge Barbara Lagoa of the 11th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals; Justice Thomas Lee of the Utah Supreme Court; Judge David Stras of the 8th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals; Judge Allison Jones Rushing of the 4th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals; and Judge Don Willett of the 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.

    Meanwhile, Ginsburg, who passed away late Friday, was appointed to the Supreme Court in 1993 by President Bill Clinton, spent more than two decades on the bench, and is survived by her two children Jane Carol and James Steven Ginsburg.

    Ginsburg battled two forms of cancer in the past, but her health began to take a downturn in December 2018 when she underwent a pulmonary lobectomy after two malignant nodules were discovered in the lower lobe of her left lung.

    On Jan. 7, 2019, the Court announced she would miss oral arguments that day for the first time since she joined as she continued to recuperate from that surgery.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcc...nee-vote-floor

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    So Trump was just told about RBG's death. He was quite gracious and said he was sad and that she was a great woman.

    Strangely in the background while this happened "Tiny Dancer" by Elton John was playing.
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    Im going with Amul Thapar over Amy Barrett. He’s a solid pick and for some reason I can’t shake the feeling that Barrett will be very weak on the death penalty given she is against it and super pro life. Barrett is the favorite right now, but in 2018, she was tossed aside for Kavanaugh. Thapar could do the same this time around.

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    I’d say 50/50 being its Ginsburg a woman is expected but all the systematic racism nonsense going around could give someone whose not white like thapar a leg up. So also not soft on the DP she’s denied every DP appeal that’s come before her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    Strangely in the background while this happened "Tiny Dancer" by Elton John was playing.
    That's what I thought too Helen. If Trump had spoken just 10 seconds longer, we would have heard the line "Jesus freaks out in the street, handing tickets out for God". That would've been epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shep3 View Post
    I’d say 50/50 being its Ginsburg a woman is expected but all the systematic racism nonsense going around could give someone whose not white like thapar a leg up. So also not soft on the DP she’s denied every DP appeal that’s come before her.
    Yes, but that would not be the first time that a Justice goes against expectations on a critical issue. Last June Justice Neil Gorsuch, a self-proclaimed originalist and textualist, held in Bostock v. Clayton County that transgenders were covered by a 1964 statute about "sex" discriminations...

    Barrett's belief in papal infallibility make her vulnerable to this kind of turnabout on immigration and the death penalty. We need someone who personally supports all conservative outcomes on social issues, including abolishing jus soli (wrongly called "birthright citizenship").
    Last edited by Steven AB; 09-26-2020 at 03:10 PM.

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    I think there are basically three serious contenders:

    1. Amy Coney Barrett. She is on the 7th Circuit. Though reliably conservative, I'm not that confident about her stance on the DP. Also, she'd be the 6th Catholic on the current court, which is a lot.

    2. Barbara Lagoa. She is on the 11th Circuit, from Florida, which may sway certain voters in Florida to vote for Trump, especially because she is a Latina. On the other hand, so far we haven't seen much from her, and I think she is the least conservative of these three.

    3. Allison Jones Rushing. She is on the 4th Circuit, and probably the most reliable conservative. Moreover, she is only 38 years old, meaning she'll be on the court for decades, probably. Also, she has quite a funny surname given the circumstances. Rushing would be a home run for conservatives.

    I'm happy to hear other people's thoughts!

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    Amy Coney Barrett was on both 7th Circuit panels that vacated two of Daniel Lewis Lee's stays. She's been reliable thus far, and handled capital cases while clerking for Scalia.

    Britt Grant of the 11th Circuit is only 42 and, I believe, served as the Solicitor General of Georgia. So she definitely argued for executions in the past.

    Neomi Rao is a former Thomas clerk, and is both a woman and POC if you want maximum optics.

    EDIT: Allison Rushing has worked for Alliance Defending Freedom and has youth on her side. But I think she's a bit too green to survive the upcoming battle.
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