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    Here's the gym. / Here's the study cell.

    Lets get this straight. A guy whom murdered 77 people due to political reasons, and raises a Nazi salute at a court hearing won a human rights case. He lives in a three celled room that has a treadmill, weights, an outdoor cage, TV, and a computer he also plays video games. What happened to Norway? Have they lost their balls? Their most notorious killer is getting more luxuries and rights then the poor.

    Here's an article on this "Inhumane prison"

    Anders Behring Breivik's prison: Ila near Oslo

    The prison said in a statement before Friday's verdict that Breivik would initially be kept isolated from casual contact with other prisoners.

    Instead, his face-to-face contact with other people would be restricted to prison staff, and the hour each week when he is allowed to have visitors.

    Ila is an all-male institution which "houses some of the country's most dangerous men", its website says.

    Former inmates include Varg "Greven" Vikernes, a notorious black metal musician who murdered a bandmate and burnt down historic churches in the early 1990s, for which he served 16 years.

    However, the prison that holds Breivik differs markedly from other maximum security jails in Western Europe: the staff is a half-and-half mix of men and women, and none of them are armed.

    Letters

    Photos have been released of the facilities available to Breivik.

    He currently has three cells, in "compensation" for being denied access to activities available to other inmates, prison spokeswoman Ellen Bjercke explained.

    Each cell measures 8 sq m (86 sq ft). One is a bedroom, one contains fitness equipment and the third is a study with a laptop fixed to a desk.

    The computer is not connected to the internet, in order to prevent communication with the outside world.

    He is unlikely ever to have free access to the internet, Ms Bjercke told the BBC News website.

    Even if he eventually qualifies for educational activities, he will only be allowed to use a special server run by the prison "with a lot of filters", she explained.

    Breivik's defence lawyers have said he is planning to follow up the manifesto he published online before his attacks by writing books.

    As a prisoner, he has the right to write as many letters to the outside world as he likes.

    "But we go through everything and if we find anything in breach of the law, which encourages criminal activity for instance, then of course we can stop it," the prison spokeswoman said.

    For fresh air, Breivik has access to a reserved outside area enclosed by tall concrete walls and barbed wire.

    For entertainment, he has a TV set and can order books from the prison library, which is part of the public library network. In theory, he can have any books he wants unless there are security concerns - "not bomb-making manuals", as Ms Bjercke put it.

    Asked whether Breivik, who used to relax by playing video shooting and role-playing games, would have access to computer games, she said it was a police decision but she doubted he would.

    Isolation

    In its statement, the prison explained that, under the Regime of Particularly High Security, a prisoner is not allowed to meet inmates from other wings.

    However, he may meet other inmates in his own wing if it is deemed safe.

    "The Regime of Particularly High Security puts a heavy strain on an inmate, especially if it lasts for a longer period," the prison noted.

    Therefore, prisoners like Breivik are given greater contact with prison officers and more opportunities for work, education and other activities.

    "The idea is to increase contacts with the prison staff who are tasked with keeping him active, doing physical exercise with him, talking to him," Ms Bjercke told the Associated Press news agency. "Isolation is torture."

    Officials at Ila were quoted by AP as saying the ambition was eventually to transfer Breivik to a section with other prisoners.

    These have access to a school that teaches from primary grades through to university-level courses, a library, a gym and work in the prison's workshops - which produce such items as furniture and hats and gloves.

    "I like to put it this way: he's a human being," said Ms Bjercke. "He has human rights. This is about creating a humane prison regime."

    One change Breivik should notice after returning from court is a tightening of his daily regime, she told the BBC.

    While still on trial he was allowed to spend his time much as he wished but, as a convict, he will be wakened each morning at 0700. It will still be up to him, however, what time he goes to sleep as there is no "lights out" rule.

    Security

    Founded as a women's prison, Ila was used as a concentration camp during the Nazi occupation of Norway in the 1940s.

    The modern prison has 12 wings and can hold 124 prisoners, overseen by 230 staff who can monitor them via surveillance cameras.

    The last time a man escaped from Ila was in 2004, and he was caught within minutes, according to prison governor Knut Bjarkeid.

    While none of the prison officers are armed with guns, they do have access to batons and can use tear gas if required.

    "I've been in this business for 30 years and I have never seen gas being used," said Ms Bjercke. "We use it very, very seldom."

    If a situation arose where firearms might be necessary, the prison would call in the police, she added.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-19354906

    Here's the video of the bombing



    Also here's some video of some of the people he killed.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e6_1311416155
    "There is a point in the history of a society when it becomes so pathologically soft and tender that among other things it sides even with those who harm it, criminals, and does this quite seriously and honestly. Punishing somehow seems unfair to it, and it is certain that imagining ‘punishment’ and ‘being supposed to punish’ hurts it, arouses fear in it." Friedrich Nietzsche

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    It's been bothering me how many of their people have to be murdered until they finally decide to grow a pair. Our state could show them how to deal with thugs like Breivik.

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    I love Europe but their courts and governments are absolutely insane when it comes to their leniency with violent crime. Of course, such virtue-signaling laxness is by no means benign as it inevitably leads to innocent people getting murdered and maimed.

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    You're right Moh.. This is incredible..

    However, it fits in a broader movement I'm afraid. A few weeks ago my own government (the Dutch) announced it will do away with life sentences. In Europe, the Netherlands was practically the last state where a life sentence actually meant that you will die in prison. Only our King has the right to commute these sentences, but she/he never does so (only once in the past 30 years). However, under pressure of the European Court of Human Rights, our government is now setting aside the life sentence. I'm disgusted. Certainly in the light of the recent terrorist attacks that have hit Europe. If a Paris or Brussels style attack hits our country, and the terrorist is caught, then it should never be possible to get out of prison. But these days the public opinion in Europe has become that somehow every perp is a victim himself, and therefore we should have compassion... I really wonder when and how this insane policy will finally end. No wonder that all over Europe people have had enough of the EU.

    Last week the murderer of a former Dutch minister was convicted. He didn't even get a prison sentence. Only compulsory psychological treatment and when he is considered ''cured'' he can leave. These cases make me desperate.
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    I agree with most of what you've written except that I don't believe most Europeans are actually in favor of such policies. It's the elites, who think they know better than the great unwashed, who've foisted this madness upon their own countries. It's the same disconnect between the elites and normal people that's led to the backlash against mass Moslem immigration, which most ordinary people simply do not want and whose opinions the elites had not bothered to solicit before welcoming in millions of barbarians.

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    Norway court rejects mass killer Breivik’s parole request

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    COPENHAGEN (AP) — A Norwegian court ruled Tuesday that far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in 2011, must remain in prison, saying there remains “an obvious risk” he could return to behavior that led up to the massacre.

    Last month, Breivik faced a parole hearing before the three-judge Telemark District Court where he professed white supremacist views and flashed Nazi salutes on the hearing’s opening day, while claiming to have renounced violence.

    But the court said he remains a potential threat.

    “Because his psychiatric condition is unchanged, there is an obvious risk that he will fall back on the behavior that led up to the terrorist acts on July 22, 2011,” the court said in its ruling.

    The ruling said he “used extreme violence as a tool to achieve his own political goals” and the court “has no doubt that (Breivik) still today has the ability to commit new serious crimes that may expose others to danger.”

    Breivik is serving Norway’s maximum 21-year sentence for setting off a bomb in Oslo’s government district and carrying out a shooting massacre at a summer camp for left-wing youth activists.

    He was declared sane at his trial, although the prosecution argued that he was psychotic. He didn’t appeal his sentence but unsuccessfully sued the government for human rights violations for denying him the right to communicate with sympathizers.

    Breivik could be held longer than 21 years under a provision that allows authorities to keep criminals in prison for as long as they’re considered a menace to society.

    During last month’s hearing, prosecutor Hulda Karlsdottir argued Breivik still is “a very dangerous man” and “has not shown any genuine remorse in court.”

    Norwegian news agency NTB quoted Karlsdottir welcoming the ruling as “well founded.”

    A psychiatrist who has observed him since 2012, testified that Breivik can’t be trusted while a prison official told hearing that “there is an imminent danger” that, if released, Breivik would again commit serious crimes.

    Breivik’s lawyer Øystein Storrvik said his client should be released to prove that he is reformed and no longer a threat to society, and that is not possible to prove while he is in total isolation.

    Storrvik called it “a paradox that a person is treated so badly in prison that he never gets better. He never gets out.”

    Tuesday’s ruling can be appealed. Norwegian broadcaster TV2 cited Storrvik saying Breivik would appeal the ruling. The lawyer was not immediately available for comment.

    https://apnews.com/article/europe-ra...05a22fdd31f896

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