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    Kim Jong-un’s Bloody Path to Power -- Execution by Close-Range Mortar

    The execution of Kim Jong-un’s own uncle by the young North Korean dictator is the most important person Kim has ordered killed during his two-year tenure as “supreme leader,” but it’s not his first.

    Purging and killing suspected rivals or officers with wavering loyalty has been a trait of the family dynasty along with unusual means of execution, which have included death by close range mortars.

    What is unusual about this week’s execution of Jang Song-thaek is that it was done so publicly. The Kims’ death sentences have been generally carried out without publicity, leaving those who monitor the secretive regime to use sources to track and tally the Kim victims.

    Below are some of the victims believed killed by Kim, his father and grandfather.

    North Korea’s official news agency, KCNA, confirmed Jang’s arrest and execution, a rarity in a country where few of the leader’s machinations are made public. Jang, 67, was married to Kim’s aunt Kim Kyong Hui and rose through the ranks from municipal apparatchik to vice chairman of the National Defense Commission and member of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the Workers’ Party.

    Four days after his arrest on charges of trying to overthrow the government, Jang, who served as a regent to the young leader, was quickly tried and executed.

    In August, Hyon Song-wol, a singer rumored to be Kim’s ex-girlfriend was executed along with a dozen other popular music performers in front of their families, according to South Korean newspaper Chosun Ilbo. Hyon and the other members of the Unhasu Orchestra were sentenced to death on pornography charges.

    Kim’s wife Ri Sol-ju is also a previous member of the Unhasu Orchestra and is rumored to have requested Hyon’s death because she was jealous of the other woman’s popularity.

    In one of Kim’s first shows of strength he ordered the execution of Kim Chol, a deputy defense minister, just weeks after coming to power following his father’s death in 2011.

    According to Chosun Ilbo, Chol, several other officers were executed by mortars fired at close range.

    Chol was accused of drinking alcohol with a female military officer during the country’s three month mourning period for Kim Jong-il, in which his son strictly prohibited “singing or dancing, merrymaking or recreation,” according to reports.


    Kim Jong-Un and friends attend an X-Night Chat at the Heidi Sal-Song Theater


    Kim Jong-un, apparently learned from his father’s brutal tactics. In 2010, Chosun Ilbo reported, that Kim Jong-il had ordered the purge of 100 senior officials, killing dozens of them, the last great purge of his regime.

    In 1995, soon after taking power from his own father, Kim Jong-il ordered the “purge of the Sixth Army Corps,” in which more than 20 officers accused of attempting to stage a coup were killed, according to South Korean news sources.

    Kim Jong-il’s greatest purge occurred in 2001, during the so-called “march to progress” in which 1 million people were killed. Hundreds of senior officials were removed from office and, with their families, sent to reeducation camps, while dozens others were executed, according to Chosun Ilbo citing South Korean intelligence reports.

    Kim’s grandfather, Kim il-Sung, the founder of Communist North Korea, so tightly controlled news coming out of the country that there is “comparatively little independent information about the regime’s purges, executions, and concentration and forced labor camps,” according to University of Hawaii historian RJ Rummel.

    Rummel, however, estimates, that as many as 3.5 million people could have been murdered by the country’s first supreme leader from 1948 to the early 1990s.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...path-to-power/

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    Kim Jong-Un and friends attend an X-Night Chat at the Heidi Sal-Song Theater



    U crack me up JimKay! ...............

    They sure know how to execute in North Korea. No talk and alota action. It is North Korean custom that executions are carried out by firing squad - "Hot Lead". No Lethal Injection choice currently available. All done in secrecy and no appeals allowed. Press is excluded.



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    The inmate "could long ago have ended his anxieties and uncertainties by submitting to what the people have deemed him to deserve: execution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Desert Bill View Post
    They sure know how to execute in North Korea. No talk and alota action. It is North Korean custom that executions are carried out by firing squad - "Hot Lead". No Lethal Injection choice currently available. All done in secrecy and no appeals allowed. Press is excluded.
    Jang was formerly #2, so the message to all NORKs is clear: If Jang can be x-ed, anyone can be x-ed. Now they're calling back their envoys from China. Jang was closely involved with China, apparently trying to introduce some economic reforms. In the glorious days of the USSR, if a Soviet government lackey overseas got an unexpected summons to return to Mother, it meant either a promotion or a bullet in the back of the head. Today, a lot of NORKs in China are wondering whether to try escaping to South Korea or return home. They should have known better. Economic reforms are bad for tyrannies. People with empty bellies are less likely to take up arms against the leadership, or last long if they do.

    Analysts think this is only the beginning of a major purge. Kill the head, then go after the rest. It's a terrible thing for the victims, who may have meant well for their country. And who knows what Kim will do to show the people he's still holding the reins? Launch another missile? Set off another nuke? Still, he must be feeling a little paranoid, and that makes me happy. His wife wanted that singer whacked because she was jealous. Obviously, Mrs. Kim has her boy right where she wants him. Suppose she, like Jang's wife, gets tired of her husband? Maybe chubbo-with-the-fade doesn't look like such a great catch after all? Are his bodyguards really loyal? Does he know what happened to Mrs. Gandhi? If I were him I'd be sleeping with one eye open and a pistol in each hand. And I'd execute that barber.

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    Divorce, North Korean Style

    The aunt of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has been named to an ad-hoc state committee, the country's official media reported, an indication that the execution of her husband and the country's No. 2 has not immediately diminished her influence.

    The fate of Kim Kyong Hui — a younger sister of late leader Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Un's father — was questioned after North Korea announced Friday that her husband, Jang Song Thaek, was executed for trying to overthrow the government.

    But her name appeared in a state media dispatch late Saturday alongside top officials on a funeral committee for fellow senior Workers' Party official Kim Kuk Thae, who died Friday. Her name appeared sixth in the dispatch, which listed more than 50 funeral committee members.

    Considered extremely close to her brother Kim Jong Il, Kim Kyong Hui has risen through the ranks in recent years, helping to groom Kim Jong Un as the country's next leader and eventually take over power after his father's death in late 2011.

    The 67-year-old holds a slew of top posts, including ruling Workers' Party secretary and four-star army general. Some analysts said she may be spared her husband's fate because she is directly related to the country's founder, Kim Il Sung, grandfather of Kim Jong Un.

    Analysts said the dispatch suggested that Kim Kyong Hui's political standing hasn't been immediately affected by her husband's execution and that she may have even given her nephew the green light to fire Jang — but not to have him executed.

    "Jang's purging may have taken place after Kim Kyong Hui consented to it," said analyst Hong Hyun-ik from the private Sejong Institute in South Korea. "She may have opposed Jang's death sentence, but she could have agreed on Jang being dismissed."

    Kim and Jang, who married in 1972, had a dysfunctional marriage in recent years, and their only daughter committed suicide in 2006 while studying in Paris, according to South Korean media reports.

    If her health condition allows it, Kim Kyong Hui is expected to join other top officials Tuesday and attend ceremonies marking the second anniversary of Kim Jong Il's death, Hong said.

    Looking pale and gaunt lately in official appearances, Kim Kyong Hui's public activities have been sharply reduced in recent months amid media reports that she suffers liver, heart and other ailments.

    Kim Jin Moo, a North Korea expert at the state-run Korea Institute for Defense Analyses in Seoul, said that Jang's execution may have been possible because Kim Kyong Hui had not been actively engaged in politics due to her reported health problems.

    Jang's execution was shocking because it was carried out only a few days after his dismissal from all posts. It's unusual for the country to publicize any purging and execution of senior officials to the outside world. Many North Korea observers said that the moves were aimed at strengthening Kim's power, but that they also indicate Kim still lacks the same absolute power held by his father.

    Kim, the North Korea expert, said that Jang's execution and frequent personnel reshuffles that Kim Jong Un has undertaken over the past two years show that the young leader doesn't appear to have confidence in who to trust as he reshapes a government dotted with people from his father's era.

    "Dictators always feel uneasy," he said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ution-21223862

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    Define Norks

    Norks


    Breasts. Australian slang. Derived from the prominent udders on the cow used to advertise Norco, New South Wales' North Coast Dairy Co-Operative.

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    The inmate "could long ago have ended his anxieties and uncertainties by submitting to what the people have deemed him to deserve: execution."

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    Well, we know where your mind is...

    Nork is a slang word for North Koreans. But if you prefer... http://www.hancinema.net/korean_Kim_Jin-moo.php

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    Some of us are not as wise about these type of things. I thank you as always for enlightening me on the North Korean matters JimKay ....... you the man!
    The inmate "could long ago have ended his anxieties and uncertainties by submitting to what the people have deemed him to deserve: execution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Desert Bill View Post
    Norks
    I ♥ Norks
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    You know it could be he will become so paranoid he will have himself executed thinking in some psychotic or some form of schizophrenia way he is a traitor or could become a traitor some day or maybe his name gets on a execution to do list by mistake...... Just saying
    The inmate "could long ago have ended his anxieties and uncertainties by submitting to what the people have deemed him to deserve: execution."

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    Where there's death, there's hope!

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