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    Sirhan Sirhan - California




    RFK killer moved to new prison on anniversary of JFK assassination

    The man who killed Robert F Kennedy was moved to a new prison in California on the 50th anniversary of the assassination of Kennedy's brother, President John F Kennedy.

    Sirhan Sirhan, 69, was transferred on Friday from the Corcoran prison in central California to the Richard J Donovan prison in San Diego, more than 250 miles south. The move was routine, said Deborah Hoffman, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.

    "This transfer had been planned, and the date of the move is simply an unfortunate coincidence. On any given day, inmates are moved from institution to institution for a variety of reasons," she told U-T San Diego.

    Sirhan shot Robert F Kennedy on 5 June 1968, as he was leaving the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles. The senator had claimed victory in California's Democratic presidential primary just moments earlier. Sirhan was sentenced to death, but it was commuted to life in prison in 1972. He has since spent time in several California jails.

    In 2011, Sirhan was denied parole at a hearing in which he said he had no memory of shooting Kennedy. His lawyers have claimed that Sirhan was framed in a conspiracy. They contend that he was programmed through hypnosis to fire shots as a diversion for the real killer.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...fk-anniversary

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    Where was Jack Ruby when he was needed in California back then?


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    Ruby was dead at the time.

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    Yup, I remember that Ruby died in jail, which only added to the Mafia conspiracy theory for JFK.

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    Information on Ruby's date of death can be found all over the Internet. You might try starting with Wikipedia.

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    All over the tv as well this past week, being the 50th anniversary of JFK's untimely death.

    Most people, who were around at the time, remember where they were and how they heard of the following:

    - the killing of Bin Laden

    - the 9/11 attack on the twin towers in NYC

    - the McVeigh bombing in OKC

    - the Challenger explosion

    - John Lennon in NYC (***edited***)

    - the JFK assassination

    - Pearl Harbor

    - FDR's death in office.

    Of course that is going back a long ways. My mom remembers FDR & Pearl Harbor. She also remembers Adolf launching Barbarossa against the Russians, which she and all her neighbors thought was pure insanity at the time by Adolf. So it did not take a genius to figure out that Adolf was totally mad by then.

    I specifically don't remember the RFK or the ML King Jr assassinations, although I remember they were on the news and in newsprint afterwards.

    When Jack Ruby shot Oswald, I remember seeing it on the tv news, and it must have been Sunday night after the Friday JKF shooting. But I don't really remember it as crystal clearly as when I heard about JFK.

    Sirhan Sirhan had a very strange name, and that's all I remember about the announcement of his assassination of RFK.

    To this day everyone wonders if the Mob paid him off to do it?

    RFK was an ardent prosecutor of the Mob. Therefore it makes sense that they would want him killed.

    Otherwise Sirhan Sirhan makes no sense at all. Why would a Middle Eastern bozo want to kill a presidential candidate?

    It still makes no sense at all.

    Sirhan should have been executed in a Federal facility. But California took over the prosecution and managed to muck it all up.

    Therefore it is a good thing Jack Ruby came along when he did. And he should have been given a medal.

    The American justice system is arbitrary and capricious. Sirhan Sirhan is clear evidence of that.

    And there seems to be enough madness to last forever.
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    You forget Elvis Presley and the murder of John Lennon.

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    Oh yes, I can fix Lennon in there ... sure.

    Don't remember Elvis though. Last I heard of Presley was he was turning into a zeppelin in Vegas while singing in clubs there.

    Investigation Discovery did a show on Lennon's killer. It was recently rebroadcast.

    He (the psycho) said he was bent out of shape over Lennon's arrogance.

    Poor Lennon -- UK mentality had taught him that nobody would ever shoot him because the UK keeps close clamps on handguns.

    Well he forgot he was living in NYC.

    The psycho bought his gun in Hawaii and brought it all the way to NYC with him.

    That's why NYC's gun control does not work -- not every location in the USA is communist.
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    Sirhan Sirhan loses bid for freedom over RFK death

    Sirhan Sirhan, who is serving a life sentence in prison for the June 1968 assassination of presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, failed to persuade a federal judge to set him free because he was innocent of the crime.

    In a decision dated Monday, U.S. District Judge Beverly Reid O'Connell in Los Angeles said Sirhan "failed to meet the showing required for actual innocence" that might excuse his having failed to seek his freedom sooner in federal court.

    Sirhan had filed his petition for habeas corpus, which could have resulted in his freedom, in May 2000.

    William Pepper, a lawyer for Sirhan, did not immediately respond on Tuesday to requests for comment.

    Sirhan, now 70, was wrestled to the ground with a gun in his hand after Kennedy was shot on June 5, 1968, at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, shortly after Kennedy won the California Democratic presidential primary. Kennedy died the next day.

    The defendant was sentenced to death in 1969, but his sentence was commuted to life in prison after California banned the death penalty. Sirhan was denied parole for a 13th time in 2011. He is now housed in a state prison in San Diego.

    In seeking Sirhan's freedom, defense lawyers argued that he had not been physically in position to fire the fatal shot, and that a second shooter and gun may have been responsible.

    The judge, however, said Sirhan's case was not strong enough.

    "Though petitioner advances a number of theories regarding the events of June 5, 1968, petitioner does not dispute that he fired eight rounds of gunfire in the kitchen pantry of the Ambassador Hotel," O'Connell wrote. "Petitioner does not show that it is more likely than not that no juror, acting reasonably, would have found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt."

    In rejecting Sirhan's bid for freedom, O'Connell accepted an August 2013 recommendation by U.S. Magistrate Judge Andrew Wistrich.

    Kennedy was a U.S. senator from New York when he died at age 42. His older brother John F. Kennedy, the former U.S. president, was 46 when he was assassinated in November 1963.

    The case is Sirhan v Galaza et al, U.S. District Court, Central District of California, No. 00-05686.

    http://townhall.com/news/politics-el...death-n1939287
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    Assassin of Robert Kennedy denied parole

    SAN DIEGO (AP) — For the 15th time, officials have denied parole for Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, after hearing from another person who was shot that night and called for the release of Sirhan.

    The decision came Wednesday after Sirhan answered questions from the parole panel for about three hours in a small, windowless conference room.

    Sirhan stuck to his previous account that he did not remember the shooting in 1968 at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.

    He said he recalled being in the hotel then going to his car and returning after realizing he had too much to drink. He said he became interested in a female as he drank coffee.

    Paul Schrade, now 91, told the panel that he believes Sirhan shot him but an unidentified second shooter killed Kennedy.

    Schrade was a Kennedy confidante who was one of five people injured in the shooting after Kennedy won the Democratic presidential primary in California.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/73da1...-denied-parole
    "There is a point in the history of a society when it becomes so pathologically soft and tender that among other things it sides even with those who harm it, criminals, and does this quite seriously and honestly. Punishing somehow seems unfair to it, and it is certain that imagining ‘punishment’ and ‘being supposed to punish’ hurts it, arouses fear in it." Friedrich Nietzsche

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