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    Well, I've just finished the translation of the censored book of Juan Ignacio Blanco, just the criminalistics man who joined Fernando García for the sake to find the truth.

    So, you are now conscious of how the Alcasser case was managed wrong by supporting the official story.
    However, there are many other things that I will show you within a couple of months, as my idea is to keep this thread standing (and updated if needed) for the purpose of the knowledge of this crime by English speakers, just the same way than the different Spaniards threads of Alcasser girls case that already exist since many years ago on the internet.
    Thanks for reading me!
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    Official story, 0.0a version. The three teenage girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub, but they were kidnapped by both Antonio Anglés and Miguel Ricart.
    Source: The official story of the crime chosen by the legal court to sent Miguel Ricart to jail.
    0.1: Although it was too late, the three girls still tried to go to Coolor nightclub.
    0.2. They didn't have enough money to buy the entrance to the secondary-school party, but they still tried to go there by hitch-hiking, so a couple took them from Alcasser to Picassent's petrol station.
    0.3: They left their car at Picassent's petrol station because apparently the car had some engine problem.
    0.4: They just were walking down the main street of Picassent heading towards Coolor nightclub.
    0.5: Both Antonio Anglés and Miguel Ricart offered them a ride to go to Coolor nightclub by getting in their own white car.
    0.6: They were abducted by both Antonio Anglés and Miguel Ricart as the driver didn't stop once they hit Coolor nightclub.
    0.7a: Both Antonio Anglés and Miguel Ricart raped and killed them in La Romana's hills.


    It's a slightly different version to the official story, 0.0b version.
    Source: It was remarked in 1997 by some people.
    From 0.1 to 0.6 is the same as above.
    0.7b: Both Antonio Anglés and Miguel Ricart were commissioned to do it, so once the three girls were kidnapped by themselves, they gave the three girls to those unknown people who ordered them to do so, and finally those unknown people killed them later.


    Unofficial story, 1.0 version. The three teenage girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub, and then they were abducted by unknown people.
    Source: This one fits very well with what the last eyewitness Maria Dolores Badal said before the legal court.
    From 1.1 to 1.4 is the same that from 0.1 to 0.4.
    1.5: The three teenage girls get in a white car which was previously occupied by four unknown men.
    1.6: Those four unknown men abducted, raped and killed them.


    Unoficial story, 2.0. version. The three girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub, and then either they were raped by unknown people or maybe someone commissioned their abduction by delegating it to another unknown person(s).
    Source: It was one of the first unofficial stories of the multiple crime based on what some staff members of Coolor nightclub said.
    From 2.1 to 2.4 is the same than from 0.1 to 0.4.
    2.5: The three teenage girls entered a bus which Coolor nightclub used to rent on weekends to allow party people to go to Coolor nightclub, although some people said that this bus wasn't available that evening.
    2.6: The three girls were abducted by the bus driver, and even perhaps by some other persons who previously were inside the bus.


    Unofficial story, 3.0 version. The three teenage girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub, and then either they were raped by unknown people or perhaps someone commissioned their abduction by delegating it to another unknown person(s).
    Source: An anonymous police officer who wrote a letter to report how wrong the investigation of this multiple crime was handled for.
    From 3.1 to 3.4 is the same as from 0.1 to 0.4.
    3.5: The three teenage girls were abducted by forcing them to enter a van by unknown people; it took place in a quiet street at the end of Picassent which is located nearby to Coolor nightclub.


    Unofficial story, 4.0 version. The three teenage girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub, and then either they were raped by unknown people or perhaps someone commissioned their abduction by delegating it to another unknown person(s).
    Source: An unofficial story that someone posted on a Spaniard forum.
    From 4.1 to 4.4 is the same as from 0.1 to 0.4.
    4.5: Within the three teenage girls were walking down the main street of Picassent heading towards Coolor nightclub, they walked by the Civil Guard police station, so they were abducted by a police car for unknow reason as maybe that car inspired trust to them.


    Unofficial story, 5.0 version. The three teenage girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub, and someone commissioned their abduction by delegating it to another person(s).
    Source: An unofficial story that the amateur, selfless investigator called Pepe Criminólogo heard earlier in 2008.
    From 5.1 to 5.2 is the same as from 0.1 to 0.2.
    5.3: An unknown person (perhaps a woman from Alcasser) took them in her own car as that person inspired trust to them.
    5.4: That unknown person took them to an unknown place and gave the three girls to other unknown people who raped and killed them later.


    Unofficial story, 6.0 version. The three teenage girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub, and someone commissioned their abduction by delegating it to another person(s).
    Source: A recently unofficial story that several people posted in some Spaniard forums.
    From 6.1 to 6.2 is the same as from 0.1 to 0.2.
    6.3: The three teenage girls were abducted by the same person who testified before the judge that he and his girlfriend took them from Alcasser to Picassent's petrol station.
    6.4 is the same as 5.4.


    Unofficial story, 7.0 version. The three girls tried to go to Coolor nightclub but something unexpected happened, so they had to change their own earlier mind. The reason for their death is unclear, but probably is different to the others ones which appears in this mind map.
    Source: Rafael Hersanz, who is a member from 'El Palleter' selfless investigation team.
    7.1: They didn't have any accurate intention to go to Coolor nightclub, as they didn't buy presale tickets within the previous days in their secondary school.
    7.2: One of the girls wanted to look at a nice guy she had a flirt with, as this guy came to the secondary-school party that was held in Coolor nightclub.
    From 7.3 to 7.6 is the same as from 0.1 to 0.4.
    7.7: Within walking down the main street of Picassent, they saw how this guy drove a motorbike in the opposite direction to Coolor nightclub.
    7.8: They realised from this time that there wasn't any reason to go to Coolor nightclub.
    7.9: From then on, no one know where they were headed to, and then they vanished without a trace.


    Unofficial story, 8.0 version. No one know what their original will could be for that day. The reason of their death is unclear, but probably is different to all the others ones I've posted here.
    Source: Lara, who is a member from 'El Palleter' selfless investigation team.
    8.1: Is the same as 7.1.
    8.2: They left the house of their friend Esther Díez at 8:00 PM, and they all of had to came back home at 9:30 PM because all the three girls had a curfew.
    8.3: No one know what their mind could be, so they vanished without a trace, as the eyewitnesses' reports of those who supposedly had seen them in their way from Esther Díez House to Coolor nightclub seem to be nothing, but rather unbelievable.


    Unofficial story, 9.0 version. They didn't go to Coolor nightclub, but to another place, (maybe to buy a gift to one of their parents or something like that). Someone commissioned their abduction by delegating it to another unknown person(s).
    Source: Juan Ignacio Blanco said that in an online radio interview.
    9.1: The three teenage girls have previously made an appointment with someone who inspired truth to them, maybe an older woman.
    9.2: That unknown woman offered them a ride by getting in her own car, and then she deceived them.
    9.3 Is the same as 5.4.
    9.4: That unknown woman was just killed a few days later of the finding of the human remains of the three teenagers.
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    Well, those 9 versions of the mind map I posted yesterday can be summarized on three versions from the point of view of the murderers of them, as follows:

    1) They abducted them from themselves.
    2) They abducted them under commission by someone.
    3) Whatever else.


    Thus, there are four versions from the point of view of what the mind of the three teenage girls could be, as follows:

    1) Although it was late, they still tried to go to the secondary-school party which took place at Coolor nightclub.
    2) Although it was too late, they still tried to go to Coolor nightclub, but something happened which changed their initial mind.
    3) The story of Coolor nightclub is nothing but a false myth created by the official story, so no one know where they intended to go.
    4) They never tried to go to Coolor that day, but they previously agreed to go to another (unknown)place by being accompanied by an adult person who inspired trust to them.



    So, from the point of view of those who kidnapped them:

    1) If they abducted them from themselves, it could really fit with the fact that either the three girls tried to go to Coolor or they tried to go to Coolor, but they changed their own mind later. On the other hand, it's very hard to fit it with the third and fourth version of the three girls.
    The fact that the three girls changed their original mind within their way to Coolor implies a fortuitous coincidence which it could be only affordable by some murders who found them randomly.
    As it was too late to go to Coolor, it also implies that few other girls could do the same at 8:30 PM, so maybe they were the only girls that were walking down towards Coolor, which could make them being targeted by random kidnappers.

    2) If they abducted them because they did it under commission of someone, it could fit very well with the version that the girls didn't want to Coolor but elsewhere. On the other hand, it's very hard to fit it with the third version and likely with the first and the second ones.
    If the three teenage girls really scheduled to go to another place different from Coolor nightclub one by being accompanied by someone that lured them into a trap, it could imply that the one who lured them did that as something that has been previously planned, therefore those who kidnapped them may draw up a coordinated plan to abducted them.
    Although their mind to go to Coolor really fit with a coordinated plan too, the way they did it too late could imply a delay to what their kidnappers may have previously planned there, so that's why the fourth version of the girls seems to be more scheduled and predictable than the first one.

    3) If they abducted them for any other purpose, it's very hard to fit it with either the first one or the fourth one as a scheduled plan by the three girls may imply a scheduled plan by those who abducted them too. However, there are many plausible reasons rather than abducted for themselves or performing it under commission of someone, so many mysteries may rise there, though.

    P.S. As the original version to the mind map of the disappearance was made by Pepe Criminologo in some Spanish-speaking forums, and I was allowed to translate here, both the current post and the one who I posted yesterday are not my own personal opinion, but Pepe Criminólogo's one.

    From my own personal opinion about how they vanished for, as I've been reading for too long, I think the three girls never tried to go to Coolor nightclub that evening, so I think that whoever that abducted them really did it by being commissioned by another person(s) who killed them later, and those who killed them might have a link with the most powerful Spaniard oligarchs. Finally, I guess those oligarchs tried to blackmail our government, but hey, who knows!
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    Now I will show you another multiple crime which took place in Valencia province in January 1989, just three years ago of Alcasser girls case. Although most people in Spain know nothing about Macastre as there was not much media coverage about, the few people that have read about Macastre teenage case are able to say that both are closely related in some way, although some others say they weren't related at all.

    In fact, there are some odd coincidences between both multiple crimes, as one of the foot of one of the victims of Macastre murders just was found on 27th January 1989 (just four years before the appearance of the three teenage girls) in Alcasser street at the city of Valencia.


    Bloody hell! Valencia city has 800,000 inhabitants, so it was a very odd coincidence that the foot of one of Macastre corpses just appeared in that city at a street called Alcasser, and is very odd that it was found just on the same date that the corpses of Alcasser girls did three years later, on 27th January!

    No one know who killed them, nor any accurate trace to the murders could be found over there, so, unfortunately, the Macastre murders still remain unsolved.

    However, from what the police investigation stated in 1989, it looks like it was a extremely sadistic multiple crime which supposedly included a cruel human hunt over those wild landscapes, and some victims suffered too much by being cutting some extremities of their bodies within alive.
    In fact, according to the official investigation, the murders took the teenage boy (who is called Francisco Valeriano) somewhere in the woods, and there was an unknown woman who suffered too much as the murders began to cut one or her hands and one of her feet by a mechanical saw, so once the teenage boy saw such real barbarity, the murders left him go and then the murders catch him for fun, as if it were a cruel animal hunt.

    It was also very strange that two of the victims (just Rosario Sayete and Francisco Valeriano) have died without having any trace of violence on their bodies, whereas their friend Pilar Ruiz and the unknow older woman were dismembered by mechanical saws within alive.
    There was stated that both Rosario Sayete and Francisco Valeriano could have died by an overdose of 'Hyoscyamus niger' (a psychoactive plant which grows in Europe which is called as 'stinking nightshade' in English). However, scientifics techniques are not well-developed back in 1989, so the real cause of their death is unclear.

    Thus, as you can see in the map located above, those wild landscapes around Macastre are relatively close to La Romana, just 25 kilometres or 15.53 miles away, so that's why both Alcasser and Macastre cases could have common issues and maybe the murders were the same, although it can't be cleared up as the police never catch any of the real murders of both crimes, so we all Spaniards are still claiming for justice.

    Thus, there is another thing which could fit with Alcasser girls case.
    Juan Ignacio Blanco once said that the snuff film of Alcasser girls case has a frame in which one of the girls appeared face up over a bed by being closely watched by their murders, (the same way as people often did when giving the last goodbye to someone on a funeral ceremony).

    According to the crime scene reconstruction of Macastre case, Rosario Sayete was found dead facing up over a bed in a farmer uninhabited house by his owner, as the next image shows, and according to what Juan Ignacio Blanco said, one of the three girls of Alcasser appeared facing up over a bed in the snuff film too:



    http://lawebdelassombras.blogspot.co...-macastre.html


    Knowing that, some people in Spaniard forums think that the Alcasser girls could have been tortured killed there in the same uninhabited house in which Rosario Sayete (one of the teenage girls of Macastre case) was found dead on January 1989, but whatever.
    As some other facts of Macastre case fit with Alcasser one, this fact about the common issue of a dead body facing up over a bed could indicate us that the murders seek to leave clues just to say something in a sublimated way, and maybe the Spanish government was the last recipient of those macabre clues because of a attempt of blackmail, but hey, still nobody knows what exactly happened there.

    Anyway, both Macastre and Alcasser cases seem to be very unusual crimes.
    These are the two teenage girls and the teenage boy of Macastre case who were found dead in different places around there:

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    There was another unsolved disappearance that took place in 1992 as well, but it happened so far away from Valencia province, just in Aguilar de Campóo, which is located in the northwest of Spain (about 600 km away from Alcasser).
    So, today I'm talking the disappearance of Virginia Guerrero (15-years-old) and Manuela Torres (16-years-old).


    Apparently, on 23th April 1992 at 18:30, they went from their hometown Aguilar del Campóo to Reinosa (somewhat 20 kilometres or 12.42 miles away north) by train, and they tried to come back home at 9:30 PM by hitch-hiking. In fact, they asked a friend to go there with their intention to return by hitch-hiking later at the evening, but she refused and decided to remain at home as she was afraid of hitch-hiking, so finally Virginia Guerrero and Manuela Torres took a train to Reinosa, just to partying in a nightclub named 'Discoteca Cocos'.
    According to some friends, it is believed that Virginia and Manuela often used to go partying to Reinosa without receiving permission from their fathers.

    Then, at 9:30 PM, the two teenage girls left the nightclub and then headed to the high street of Reinosa pointing south to hitch-hike. There was a eyewitness of it, just a woman of Aguilar del Campóo who was driving her own car, and she said how she had seen that the two teenage girls entered a white Seat 127 car.
    From that day on, nothing is known about their whereabouts.

    On 9th October 1994, four hikers found two sacks containing two skulls and some bones, while walking nearby Requejada reservoir, which is located not so far away from Aguilar de Campoo.
    The skulls and the bones were sent for some comprehensive analysis, so all the findings were dated back to the Spanish Civil War (1936-1939).

    On 4th January 2018, a jaw bone belonging to a young woman (who died about 25 years ago) was found in the shore of the Ebro reservoir near Yuso, about 25 kilometres or 15.53 miles northeast of Aguilar de Campóo, but further DNA test showed that it didn't match either Virginia nor Manuela. In fact, it didn't match with the profiles of other disappeared people around that area either.

    There is a picture of Virginia Guerrero and Manuela Torres:



    Source in Spanish language:
    http://lawebdelassombras.blogspot.co...y-manuela.html
    https://www.diariopalentino.es/notic...loro-la-sequia
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    There is another bizarre thing that happened to one of the Alcasser teenage girls, just to Miriam García. According to what the criminalistics man who is called Juan Ignacio Blanco said in a radio interview, and according to what the mother of Miriam García said to the media as well, just five days before their disappearance, Miriam Garcia went alone to the rubbish out to the rubbish bin at nighttime.
    Other sources coming from outside the family circle stated that it took place two or three months before their disappearance, so I still trust both Juan Ignacio Blanco and the mother of Miriam García.

    While going downstairs, the light went out and an unknown hooded man appeared from the unused lift shaft, so Miriam García just throw the rubbish at the face of the unknown man, and then she ran away to the nearest telephone box in order to call to her parents immediately.

    Was that unknown man a thief who was not involved in the crime?
    Was that unknown man one of their kidnappers trying to check the daily routines of the three teenage girls?
    Was Miriam García the main purpose for the crime, and the kidnappers were lucky as they abducted the other two teenage girls by chance?

    No one can answer properly, though.


    Source in Spanish language:

    http://lawebdelassombras.blogspot.co...lacodicia.html
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    Now I would like to show you another two odd things.
    It was broadcasted on the most prominent Spanish television channel on 13th November 1992 at 9:30 PM, just one hour later of the official disappearance of the three teenage girls of Alcasser. It was a one of the most-watched quiz TV shows of all time in those years that aired every Friday at prime-time, which was called "Un, dos, tres", in which a choreography is performed with some references to satanic stuff, debauchery and sadistic orgies:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiNlISh7l-Y


    Some people on Spaniards forum think the choreography was just a chance, and therefore it had nothing to do with a conspiracy, but some others are willing to say that such choreography was aired as a part of a plot. Don't forget that Tve is the national state-owned public-service television in Spain, so everything broadcasted there was managed by the government in some way in those years, and still it is.
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    Well, now I show you another thing. When I began to translate the censored book of Juan Ignacio Blanco three months ago, I rejected to translate the first part to the first chapter of it and the entire second chapter, just to make it more bearable to you. Most of it is superfluous stuff, although there is a thing that you need to know, so there it is.

    When the mother of Miriam García went to the Civil Guard police station located in Alcasser to report the disappearance of Miriam, she said that she received a call phone the day of the disappearance on 13th November at 8:00 PM, in which Miriam García ask her father to take them to Coolor nightclub, but he rejected to do it as he had some flu symptoms.

    According to what the friend of the three girls (Esther Díez, you know) said when the three teenage girls came to her house, Miriam asked her to be allowed to rang her father for the purpose to a ride to Coolor nightclub.

    Well, as you can see at the beginning of this thread, the reports of all those eyewitnesses who supposedly have seen them within few moments before their disappearance are just nothing, but rather inconsistent; so maybe Esther Díez did not tell the truth, as her mother said that the three girls left her house at 6:00 PM. So, we in Spaniards threads really think that the three teenage girls were already kidnapped at 8:00 PM, and the phone call was a decoy that Miriam did by being under pressure of their kidnappers.
    That's why we think their intention to go partying to Coolor nightclub is nothing, but a huge lie to the official story which was built by both the police and the media.

    http://webs.demasiado.com/elpalleter/laracoolor.htm
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    There was another phone call too, just the one that supposedly one of the three teenage girls, (just Toñi) did on 17th November 1992, four days later of their disappearance, as her father reported to the Civil Guard police station of Alcasser.
    He said that on 17th November 1992 at noon, a call phone was received at home from someone who said 'daddy' three times as a whisper. He said he recognized that voice as the one of Toñi, but unfortunately police never investigated it, or at least any conclusion of it was stated on the case file of Alcasser girls case.

    Was it a call she did within an oversight to their murders? If so, the official story fails again as it states that they have died in La Romana on 14th November at noon. Juan Ignacio Blanco said in one of his late radio interviews that the three teenage girls could stay alive as long as 20 days or so.

    Was it a cruel joke made by a heartless person? Who knows!

    http://webs.demasiado.com/elpalleter/qpa02.htm
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    On 15th November 1992 at afternoon, within the second day after they vanished, everyone in Alcasser and Picassent was requested for cooperation, so most citizens began to check those landscapes around the boundaries of the two neighbours towns, especially the surrounding area to Coolor nightclub in Picassent.
    Then, a tragic event happened there, just very close to the residential quarter located in the western area of Picassent:

    A 26-years-old Civil Defence officer died and the other one was seriously injured as they were run over when they were looking for the three teenage girls. According to some sources, it was stated by the traces of the tyres that the car could be an off-road one and that the driver involved in the accident drove away without helping these two men.

    Some of us think in Spaniard forums that it was just an unfortunate event, but some others still thinks that, at that time, the three girls were kidnapped in one of those houses located not so far away from that point, so one of their captors probably was upset by this situation and suddenly decided to run over those two Civil Defence volunteers.

    http://periodismo-oculto.blogspot.co...retrato-y.html
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